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03-09-2014 12:17 PM
flyfishinwoman Just to add, I did some flirt pole sessions with my pup, to develop prey drive, targeting and grip, and also to introduce him to the concept of barking to get the "game" going. After a few short sessions (only once/day), he was taught that the rag didn't move until he looked at me and barked. Then in a few more sessions, he was taught that he had to come up to me, look at me and bark for the rag to move - after "winning" it and leaving it when "dead". Once he figured out how to initiate the game, and the fundamentals of a bark and hold (man oriented, not the rag), we stopped doing flirt pole work. This was about the same time he started teething, so it was a good natural break. Now he's almost 8 months old, and I may start a bit more on a sleeve cover (I don't have a wedge or pillow) with him backtied, just to refamiliarize him with the concepts of initiating/bark and hold/man orientation. I won't do more than a few sessions, then it's time to leave it until I can find a helper and he's mature enough to be worked in some defence.

I believe that when the pup is young and you can work him in prey, then setting the foundation and having fun is all that's necessary. Once you know that the pup can target/grip/initiate well, then it's just a matter of waiting until they are mature enough to be worked in defence as well. That's the hard part - the waiting, lol..
03-09-2014 10:43 AM
lhczth I tend to wait now too. LB is almost 9 months. I did a few rounds with barking and a rag, just barking in a puppy circle and then nothing for well over 3 months. I'll probably do some barking work with her this month or next (depending on when the snow melts).

Waiting is easier when we have another dog to work.
03-08-2014 11:08 PM
Blitzkrieg1
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Hahaha I have the same problem. My first trainer always said I need at least two dogs. The only reason I can leave my puppy alone is because I have someone else's dog I'm training with at the moment. It's hard to wait on puppies to grow up especially when they are doing so well.
Your lucky I wish I knew someone that needed an IPO title put on their dog this summer.
03-08-2014 11:01 PM
mycobraracr
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To be honest if I had a second dog I would put up the female and only bring her out once a month for the next 8 months. I just love to train..probably overtrain at times.

Hahaha I have the same problem. My first trainer always said I need at least two dogs. The only reason I can leave my puppy alone is because I have someone else's dog I'm training with at the moment. It's hard to wait on puppies to grow up especially when they are doing so well.
03-08-2014 10:55 PM
Blitzkrieg1
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I should also add that I don't like to bring puppies/dogs up in all prey. So I prefer to wait until they are mature enough to handle it. No need to rush it. My current puppy has only been out three times. I have really like what I have seen every time. At only five months, she still has a lot of maturing to do. So for now I wait. I will bring her out again in a couple months and see how she does.
To be honest if I had a second dog I would put up the female and only bring her out once a month for the next 8 months. I just love to train..probably overtrain at times.
03-08-2014 10:50 PM
mycobraracr I should also add that I don't like to bring puppies/dogs up in all prey. So I prefer to wait until they are mature enough to handle it. No need to rush it. My current puppy has only been out three times. I have really like what I have seen every time. At only five months, she still has a lot of maturing to do. So for now I wait. I will bring her out again in a couple months and see how she does.
03-08-2014 10:36 PM
Blitzkrieg1 Did a lot of stuff at home. Brought her out at about 12 weeks and was fighting the helper for a rag and barking nicely. Has nice prey and lots of defense. So have to be careful to keep it all in prey. Been going once a week since. Building the bark and hold atm, previous to that all drive, grip and strike building.
03-08-2014 10:33 PM
Jax08 I had Seger out a couple weeks ago at 4 1/2 months. He was out about a month earlier. Showed a lot of interest then but wouldn't bark. He was very into it this last time but the helper interacted with him more also.
03-08-2014 10:31 PM
trcy We started when he was about 4 months old. They just used flirt poles at first, then small bite pillows, now he's biting larger bite pillows. He has not done any sleeve work yet. He just turned 9 months.
03-08-2014 10:28 PM
mycobraracr I bring them out around 10-12 weeks to see what they do. Then again about 20 weeks. After that I wait until the 7-9 month range and go from there.
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