German Shepherd Dog Forums - Reply to Topic

Increase font size: 0, 10, 25, 50%

GermanShepherds.com is the premier German Shepherd Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Thread: Diarrhea - round two! Reply to Thread
Title:
  
Message:
Trackback
Send Trackbacks to (Separate multiple URLs with spaces):
Post Icons
You may choose an icon for your message from the following list:
 

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the German Shepherd Dog Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Additional Options
Miscellaneous Options

Topic Review (Newest First)
03-01-2014 01:14 PM
A girl and her dog Okay, so no BM's at all since Thursday when he was fasted. He's been on rice and ground meat since yesterday and we'll see how it goes. I want to give him a few days at least on that with healthy stools before changing anything.
03-01-2014 01:12 PM
A girl and her dog
Quote:
Originally Posted by mydogs View Post
Stop with this raw put your pup on a lower grade kibble like ProPlan sensitive stomach or vet prescribed kibble. My Dane had Giardia. Took 3 rounds to get rid of it. He was on vet kibble and tylan powder for 3 weeks plus digestive enzymes. Go simple on the food I don't agree with raw and bones fad. The digestive enzymes put the good bacteria back in his gut while you are killing the bad with the meds. A tablespoon of plain Greek yogurt is always good to give.


Sent from Petguide.com Free App
Was your dog on raw when he had giardia? I'm sorry you don't agree with raw. I don't agree with low grade or vet kibble. I'll give him what works when I find what that is. Obviously, he didn't do well at all on kibble either!
03-01-2014 07:56 AM
mydogs Stop with this raw put your pup on a lower grade kibble like ProPlan sensitive stomach or vet prescribed kibble. My Dane had Giardia. Took 3 rounds to get rid of it. He was on vet kibble and tylan powder for 3 weeks plus digestive enzymes. Go simple on the food I don't agree with raw and bones fad. The digestive enzymes put the good bacteria back in his gut while you are killing the bad with the meds. A tablespoon of plain Greek yogurt is always good to give.


Sent from Petguide.com Free App
02-28-2014 11:09 PM
A girl and her dog
Quote:
Originally Posted by Heidigsd View Post
OP - I am sorry that Nonny is having diarrhea again. Nobody else will say it but I would seriously take a look at the raw chicken being the culprit, lots of nasty bacteria in chicken. I know a lady that had a healthy dog and it became infected with Campylobacter from raw chicken and now has IBD and she used to feed a lot of raw.

Dogs can and do get sick from the bacteria in raw meat no matter what anyobody else tells you. I really don't care if people feed raw but it makes me sad to the dogs pay the price because of misinformation.

Maybe get in touch with JJJ89, he just found out his dog become sick from raw meat. http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...-my-dog-3.html

There is a diarrhea panel that our vet uses if Nikki gets unexplained diarrhea but it's not cheap, I think we paid $160 last time. http://www.idexx.com/pubwebresources...hea-panels.pdf

Good luck and I hope he gets better soon.
I am considering that raw may not be for him. As I said though, my Chi eats raw and has since he was a pup and never had any problems. They ate the same meats at the same times from the same packages. Only Nonny got sick; otherwise, I would agree more with bacteria being the culprit. Not ruling it out though. I'm giving raw one last shot for him when he clears up and if it doesn't work out, I'll find a decent alternative.
02-28-2014 11:06 PM
Doc AD is either science diet or purina vet speciality product. It is a very good gastro food - nutritious yet easy on the tummy.
02-28-2014 11:04 PM
A girl and her dog
Quote:
Originally Posted by GSDAlphaMom View Post
I haven't read any responses to your post so this may be a repeat but giardia almost always takes more than one round of treatment....sometimes even 3 rounds. Also be aware that the test can show negative if the parasites aren't sluffing off when the test is done. If you get a negative and still have loose stool, do another test in a couple of days. Has he been tested for coccidia? (different test than giardia).
No, not tested - vet just Rx'd based on possibilities. If I can't get it under control over the weekend, I'll go back.
02-28-2014 11:01 PM
A girl and her dog
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc View Post
Get a case of AD can food from your vet. Also get some Floraforti. Giardia should be controlled with Albon. I prefer the liquid over the pills. Feed small amounts at at - like 1/4 to 1/3 of can every 3 hours of so. When you have 3 or 4 cans of food left, find a limited ingredient kibble or buy some chicken backs and replace one of the feelings with it. I like chicken backs to start because of the high bone content. Feed those for a week then go to chicken leg quarters. Do everything consistently.
I like the chicken back idea. I had him on wings thinking that would be plenty of bone, if not too much - apparently not. Not sure what AD is, but I can check if the rice/g.meat doesn't get him back straight.

And Albon is what we have and I'll ask about a second round if needed. He was on that and mont.
02-28-2014 10:57 PM
A girl and her dog
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackshep View Post
Is he on Metronidazole for the giardia? A rare side effect of it actually causes diarrhea, which I had a vet deny could happen. lol My pups diarrhea was worse on the meds than with the giardia!

My pup did better on Panacur.

Clean everything with hot soapy water, sterilize floors with steam mop. Wash bedding in hot water, bath dog, wash toys EVERYTHING you can think of.

Good luck, I hate giardia with prejudice, I was dealing with it with my dog for months.
Yikes! That's a lot of steaming! I'd love to say I'll get right on that but I know better Their bowls get washed in the dishwasher and the bedding done about once a week. The Chi has had no issues, so I'm not too worried about cross contamination.

I would agree about the meds, but he did get better for a couple of days. it all started again when I put him back on raw, then really kicked in when I gave him the canned and bagged junk. He also ate some poop and I think that may be a part of it too.
02-28-2014 10:52 PM
A girl and her dog
Quote:
Originally Posted by GatorBytes View Post
First of all - Never use Immodium or any related type anti-diarrhea - This is on the MDR1 list and if this can cause seizures in MDR1 dogs, then I would think best to stay away even if not MDR1.

Maybe the drugs are killing off the parasites and the die-off is the issue causing the runny poop. Diarrhea is the bodies way to cleanse.

If you want to use something non toxic and will benefit by helping bind toxins, use "Activated Charcoal"....usually come 260mg. You can give 2 and then wait an hr. and give another 2.

I would give it several hrs. away from meds though as it may bind to that and flush out (which may also be a good thing).

Did your dog test positive for giardia or are they just throwing things out to see what sticks?

(oh, as already noted - stay away from the crap canned food too )
I didn't know that about Imodium. The vet actually Rx'd it (otc) in his paperwork. Where do you get charcoal? It wouldn't be bad to have on hand. I'm not sure that they did any testing besides a straight fecal; I doubt she tested for giardia or coccidia and, like you said probably just threw the meds at it.

I hated to even get the canned food! The only other stuff I will feed is in a log in the fridge section. I have some of that and will use it to transition from the rice/g.meat since he hasn't had any problems with that. My goal is to get him back to 100% raw sans diarrhea.
02-28-2014 10:45 PM
A girl and her dog
Quote:
Originally Posted by JakodaCD OA View Post
I agree with MOM,, stick to one type of food. The canned food will give my gsd wicked diarhea especially since I don't feed her canned.

I had some leftover from one of the other dogs that wasn't eating 'anything', I was trying ANYTHING to get him to eat, so to use it up, I was throwing some in Masi's food, BIG mistake! wicked wicked diarhea, stopped the canned, she's back to normal eating her raw.
Thanks, I'm glad I'm not alone in diarrhea land
This thread has more than 10 replies. Click here to review the whole thread.

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:46 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.3.2
PetGuide.com
Basset.net DobermanTalk.com GoldenRetrieverForum.com OurBeagleWorld.com
BoxerForums.com DogForums.com GoPitbull.com PoodleForum.com
BulldogBreeds.com FishForums.com HavaneseForum.com SpoiledMaltese.com
CatForum.com GermanShepherds.com Labradoodle-dogs.net YorkieForum.com
Chihuahua-People.com RetrieverBreeds.com