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02-24-2014 08:55 PM
Merciel If somebody told me that comforting my dog for being fearful was making his problems worse, I would laugh so hard.

and then fire them.

edit: That probably comes off a little snarkier than I want, so to clarify -- that particular misconception nettles me because it is, bluntly, wrong.

Usually people who coddle their scaredy dogs are also doing a lot of other things wrong at the same time (most commonly, putting the dog in a situation way over its head and not giving it a safe avenue to escape from the overwhelming stimulus; also, frequently, being totally ineffective in their attempts to calm the dog), but comforting a fearful dog, in and of itself, is not going to make things worse and may well make things better.
02-24-2014 08:24 PM
nikon22shooter That should be rule number one when getting a GSD haha.

Are you sure!?

Like really sure!?

Seriously!?

Oooookay. Haha
02-24-2014 08:23 PM
Sunflowers 2. You have a dog that really isn’t suited to you. If you wanted a easy-going family pet that didn’t require much work, maybe you should not have gotten a (German Shepherd.). For example, a [German Shepherd] is a smart breed of dog, but they are bred to work and need an active lifestyle. When they don’t get the type of home they need, things can really go bad.


I think this should be in neon-- -yeah, neon!

02-24-2014 07:36 PM
DaniFani
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Oh geez - I think my favorite was "My dog doesn't want to be trained", as an excuse as to why the owner was not making any progress. I'm not sure what he thought? That he needs his dog's permission to ask him to sit?

Then there was the lady with the spooky, nervy GSD that was so afraid of everything, the trainer put him in with the puppy class to help him build his confidence, him being the biggest and oldest dog there. Still fell apart when the smallest of puppies did so much as look at him.
Me to owner: "Don't coddle and pet him when he is acting afraid, your positive attention only re-inforces his fear"

Owner, very rudely: "I DON'T give him positive attention when he is scared, I know better than that!" and without a break continues on to her dog while petting "It's okay, big boy, don't be afraid silly, it just a wee little puppy" in a cooing voice while petting her dog all along.
It's crazy, I mean....it makes complete sense (the "don't coddle" rule when dealing with fear). For some reason our human mind, thinks that because the WORDS are "it's okay, don't worry about it" that the dog will somehow sit up and think, "oh...mom's telling me it's okay...I can stop being scared." Yet, we ignore the sing-songy voice/tone that is REALLY what the dog is paying attention to and interpreting as praise/reinforcement. Ya know, the same sing songy voice we use when we say, "good boy, that's great! You're such a good boy." I'm sure it's also the same body language given as well.
02-24-2014 07:30 PM
Castlemaid Oh geez - I think my favorite was "My dog doesn't want to be trained", as an excuse as to why the owner was not making any progress. I'm not sure what he thought? That he needs his dog's permission to ask him to sit?

Then there was the lady with the spooky, nervy GSD that was so afraid of everything, the trainer put him in with the puppy class to help him build his confidence, him being the biggest and oldest dog there. Still fell apart when the smallest of puppies did so much as look at him.
Me to owner: "Don't coddle and pet him when he is acting afraid, your positive attention only re-inforces his fear"

Owner, very rudely: "I DON'T give him positive attention when he is scared, I know better than that!" and without a break continues on to her dog while petting "It's okay, big boy, don't be afraid silly, it just a wee little puppy" in a cooing voice while petting her dog all along.
02-24-2014 07:28 PM
DaniFani
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LOL! Do we have the same trainer?

At the session I "tried" to tell our trainer I was having trouble with heeling position because my dog wouldn't turn left with me without tripping me. He grinned then chuckled. He said show me...so I did. Then he took my dog and proceeded to have her heel making left turns with no problems.
He then smiled at me and said very nicely " Your dog makes left turns just fine...you don't however." Then he showed me what "I" was doing wrong. We all laughed when I said to him... "so what your saying is I suck at this, not the dog and he said yes!"

At the end of every session I thanked him for training us to train our dog. Love my trainer.
Haha, love it! I'm imagining the same grin I get and the thought "so...you think your dog can't turn left?" Haha, too funny! At least we can laugh at ourselves, right?! It's always funny when your trainer takes your dog, after you're convinced the dog simply cannot perform the task...and then they have the dog do it perfectly. Oops.

When I started training my first GSD, his head started dropping every single time I asked for "foos" and rewarded. I went to practice and showed the trainer. "Well...I see you're dropping food...he just is predicting it and checking...this is your fault." lol! Whoops!
02-24-2014 07:24 PM
Springbrz
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Originally Posted by DaniFani View Post
Unless...your trainer is like mine, then you will hear all this the first day you meet him/her. lol
LOL! Do we have the same trainer?

At the session I "tried" to tell our trainer I was having trouble with heeling position because my dog wouldn't turn left with me without tripping me. He grinned then chuckled. He said show me...so I did. Then he took my dog and proceeded to have her heel making left turns with no problems.
He then smiled at me and said very nicely " Your dog makes left turns just fine...you don't however." Then he showed me what "I" was doing wrong. We all laughed when I said to him... "so what your saying is I suck at this, not the dog and he said yes!"

At the end of every session I thanked him for training us to train our dog. Love my trainer.
02-24-2014 07:15 PM
DaniFani
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Originally Posted by Castlemaid View Post
LOL! Having been a helper/assistant in obedience classes this is so right ON!!! I've bit my tongue on all of these issues, plus a few more.
Please tell us some of your "bit my tongue" thoughts! We can start our own list :-).

My favorite I hear from friends sometimes is, "he growls at anyone walking by us, he's really protective of me, like he's supposed to be." Or (one I was told by my well-intentioned in laws when I got our new puppy), "make sure you mess with him a lot while he's eating. That way he'll tolerate kids hands in his food and won't become aggressive about food." Nope. Nope. Nope.
02-24-2014 05:56 PM
blehmannwa Hey! MY pit was named Felony!! I like to think I started that trend. Her reg. name was Misdemeanour.
02-24-2014 05:54 PM
Mister C While interviewing breeders I observed a brief, informal training session between the breeder and one of her clients. Within 5 minutes Megan Judge said the first one in the list

"1. Many of your dogs so-called “issues” are actually caused by you."

Her words were more like "we help dogs with their people problems" but the gist is the same. This is one of the reasons we chose Megan and Haus Juris. I really look forward to getting my pup and training with her (and at home too, I'll be doing plenty of home work!).
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