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02-19-2014 08:39 PM
Saphire
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Originally Posted by guice View Post
*cough*man. Yes. We're a gay couple.

Thank you. I do my best, but I know I even need help in areas I'm inexperienced with. I believe this conflict happened when Ax knew I'm *inexperienced with dog training, and he felt he knew more (after watching Youtube videos? Somewhere he got it in his mind he knows how to train Sampson better than me...).

And yes. I'm a bit of an overconfident man. In every relationship, it's always _their_ loss. Thanks!
Ooooops ok take the woman part out and replace with person....I must remember that for future use.
02-19-2014 06:54 PM
David Taggart
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If you are passionate about animals and partner does not share your passion, you may feel regrets later on in life, as you may not be compatible with your partner.
I'm in full support of this idea. Love to other creatures is normally installed by our parents, and your personal interest in dog training is not a plasurable occupation, you study humans through dogs. This truth is about absolutely everyone in this Forum. It is just another room in your psyche, and if the person wasn't brought up in the same way as you were - this room would always be your personal space, where the entrance would never become accessible for your partner. You'd escape there more and more often with time, until you meet someone who would feel as your twin of an opposite sex and help you to widen and deepen this wonderful room what we call "The Dogs".
02-19-2014 06:19 PM
Waldi I have seen this great quote at dog training place (might not be exact) ".. A man, properly trained, can be dog's best friend..!"
If your BF cares about you and respects your animal, he should attend training with you and your dog.
I can tell you that people compassionate about animals (dogs in this case) will be compassionate in relationships with other people. I do not want to advise you on your relationship, however, I would expect that your partner should share your passions, as if you move on to next level of relationship, this may become big issue. Relationship must be based on trust, respect and having common interests. If you are passionate about animals and partner does not share your passion, you may feel regrets later on in life, as you may not be compatible with your partner.
The key here is to establish if your partner is willing to share your passion for dogs and will work on building relationship with your pet via training and trust.
Good luck
02-19-2014 06:09 PM
onyx'girl
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Originally Posted by guice View Post
Yes, until he started winning (not intentionally, mind you! Boy is strong!). And he destroyed his old tug-toys. He would also constantly push his toy into my/our hands to play more...now I know about NILIF.
Pushing the toy into you is great, ask for commands and reward him when he does what is asked. Locking up the tug(hold it still against your knee) will stop the game. Teach Sampson the word OUT.
But winning now and then is important too. I like a two handled tug or a longer one I can have both hands on for more control. The fleece or rope tugs aren't as good as the french linen or other firmer material.
02-19-2014 06:08 PM
Chip18
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Originally Posted by onyx'girl View Post
Also tracking or nosework are great for getting some mental stimulation. It also helps with the bonding(AX can help if he's so inclined) I personally wouldn't recommend daycare for a mature male GSD.
Already did the dog park and yeah not a fan of day care either..no control for the pet parent!
02-19-2014 06:05 PM
Chip18 Well lots going on you have some tools you can use. I'm not usually Mr Sunshine but the You tube clips are pretty safe you can mostly observe let the BF do the work. Forget the clicker.

Imagine if "he" can train the dog to walk on leash! Avoid other dogs period you don't need complications that why I asked if you have a back yard.

Dogs reactive onleash is a whole nother issue, you don't need it! If the BF can train the dog to walk on leash, that is a bonding experience!

And it never came up so this is just a shot across the bow:

Leerburg | Dog Parks: Why They Are A Bad Idea

Many of us don't do dog parks..you don't need more problems!

Good luck, keep us updated!

Oh and I always say use a behaviourist if you need to but a lot of details and cautions have already been mentioned. Keep us updated!
02-19-2014 06:03 PM
David Taggart
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Ax put his arm around Sampson (over body), and Sampson did not like it at all... Ax really took it hard; he's terrified, and now has problems approaching Sampson over it.

I need advice.

I think what might have happened is Ax has been using and threatening Sampson with a shock-collar.
1. Dogs hate to be hugged. In a doggy language Ax simply tried to put him down. When one male puts his paw on the spine of another male - it means he is establishing his high social status and ready to bite. Your dog has bitten Ax because he thought that Ax would bite him hard in a minute. Ask your boyfriend to pet your dog under the chin only, never raise his hand over his head, and try to notice when your dog likes to be petted. For instance, my dog likes to be petted in the morning when we go out, and hates petting in the evening, after intensive exerciseand her dinner she prefers a nap, nobody should disturb her. Your problem of hugging and petting reminds a common problem with children, who, by "petting", in fact, are just pestering the dog. My dog wouldn't bite only because she was trained not to do that in such situations, and it took me a long way of training her patience and tolerance. Some dogs like to be touched, some can just ignore, and some take it as a personal threat.
2. Shock-collar isn't related to the incident, but it is bad on its own. By the reaction to Ax hugging, I can assume, that your dog is a rather nervous dog. Prongs, choke collars and particularly shock-collars make nervous dogs agressive. Not immediately, of course, in a year-two years time. There's enough of information about it on the net. You'd save yourself a lot of trouble if you stop using it.
02-19-2014 06:02 PM
guice
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Originally Posted by onyx'girl View Post
Do you ever tug with Sampson? Tug is a wonderful game, you are the one in control of it and it is also a great training tool/reward.
Yes, until he started winning (not intentionally, mind you! Boy is strong!). And he destroyed his old tug-toys. He would also constantly push his toy into my/our hands to play more...now I know about NILIF.
02-19-2014 05:59 PM
onyx'girl Do you ever tug with Sampson? Tug is a wonderful game, you are the one in control of it and it is also a great training tool/reward.
02-19-2014 05:54 PM
guice
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Originally Posted by boomer11 View Post
honestly its not the dog or the bf thats the problem; its you. you have an under exercised and untrained dog. if i was to suddenly come live with you i'd be stressed too. also once a dog snaps at you, its very hard to not be afraid of a 100 lb dog.

if your dog was well trained then your bf would never even have to use the ecollar to try to intimidate the dog in the first place. gsd's arent easy to own if you arent committed. you can dump the bf but the very next bf will have to deal with the same problems. either step up or rehome the dog.
I know. I agree. I need to step it up. And Ax has agreed to do this together.

This board, however, has allowed me to see I was too forgiving in Ax's choices in handling Sampson. We'll have a big long talk about this; this time with no collar, and using positive reinforcement methods.

Ax does see he may have triggered snap with the hug. He doesn't believe it was the collar creating a distrust, however. But I'm not going to let that slide anymore. That collar is out, even if it means Ax won't return home for a period of time.

I will stop using the prong collar, too. We will work on loose-lease walks, initially indoors, then outdoors -- Sampson will need to use the restroom at some point!

Our patio is only 10x10, but we do have a ball tosser inside, and he is always overly excited to jet about for the ball, which I have used with noticeable improvement before walks.
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