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02-18-2014 01:54 PM
Blanketback It's not so bad if the dog is simply excited and the people are making it hard for the dog to settle down. Then it's just unfair to the dog, since if the rule is being quiet before being let out of the crate, the dog can't focus on that. But if the dog is actually fearful, then it's not just unfair, it's way worse that that. I don't have much patience with my guests anymore. I figure, they're only here for x amount of time - but hopefully my dog is here for the next decade or longer. So they can just go somewhere else if they can't follow the rules. Lol!
02-18-2014 01:47 PM
Chip18
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ETA: Yes OP, the staring is the worst thing they can do, especially if the dog has no escape, like being crated until quiet. Unfortunately, these people can't be allowed inside.
LOL, Yeah some guest are horrible! My Boxer girl and my brother in law and his friend were text book examples of how not to behave!
I gave up with that pack and just accepted the annual craziness! Boxers and people!
02-18-2014 01:11 PM
3dognite Oh all 3 of ours hoover for floor treats. Our dogs have done that since we had babies. I don't mind if company doesn't mind to hold and/or drop the treats.
02-18-2014 01:09 PM
Blanketback Chip18, I'm the same way! I don't want my dog soliciting attention looking for food - if he wants to be friendly, that's one thing, but I'm not going to have him pestering people for dried liver, lol. And eating off the ground is unheard of - never ever do my dogs get to do that. I'm so mean, lol.

ETA: Yes OP, the staring is the worst thing they can do, especially if the dog has no escape, like being crated until quiet. Unfortunately, these people can't be allowed inside.
02-18-2014 01:00 PM
Chip18
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Your dog is still just a pup and instinct and behaviors are changing. I made the mistake of forcing too many people on Stosh around that age when he was giving me clear signals that he wasn't ready- submissive peeing in particular. I'd take it slow and don't overwhelm him with well meaning friends who just want to love and pet and hug your pup. The most important relationship to establish right now is between you and Odin. He needs to know that you will protect him and he may be asking for that now. He won't mature for another 18 mos or so- there's no hurry. I would crate him while others are over and if he's comfortable with that, let him out but ask people to ignore him for now. They can throw a treat on the floor but not interact. It sounds as though he's trying to tell you that it's too much for him right now
By and large this accept I wouldn't do the treats myself, I don't want my dog to think people are treat machines or encourage him picking up and eating stuff from the ground! But hey I'm kinda anal!
02-18-2014 01:00 PM
3dognite And staring at a dog with this issue is OBVIOUSLY one of the worst things you can do. Other than forcing them to be approached and touched.
02-18-2014 12:54 PM
Blanketback
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It's funny having to greet people at the door and say, "I know you want to play with the puppy but for now, please just ignore him". But that's what we'll do.
It is hard, and most people won't get it. Or they'll stay at a distance and stare at the dog. It's very difficult to train humans - it makes training a dog look easy, lol.
02-18-2014 10:10 AM
3dognite
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Has he taken any obedience classes? One of the things we work on is passing a stranger with a dog, dogs are to ignore each other and stranger.
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http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...ml#post4839121

There was the first clue that there was fear - it's just something people don't usually pick up on. I would join the shyk9 yahoo group and read those archives. Take it very slow - read as much as you can before you start doing anything. Find a good positive based trainer who has experience with fearful dogs and let them help you.
No, we haven't started obedience training yet. The one trainer I would prefer to work with is full up right now. There are only two trainers in the valley I live in (within 60 miles or so) who I am comfortable with and the only one I really want to work with for basic obedience is the one that was busy. The other lady I want to work with only does advanced obedience and CGC as well as therapy dog training and agility. The other basic obedience trainers don't have the best reputation when it comes to GSD's according to my vet.

We have 2 other dogs who he is now good with. Dogs are a minor concern, but not my main concern.

We are working on the "look at me/watch me" command at home, heeling, sit/down/stay/come and long lead work (recall/down/stay). We're also working on some other stuff, tricks mainly, crawl, find (I bring smallish boxes home from work and put some of his toys in them and he has to find them). He's super smart, but is distracted easily so I'm hoping to get him into a training class soon so we can work with distractions.

Over the weekend we went to one of the spay/neuter clinics. We were the first "customers" in the door and he never barked at all. He wanted to leave, he crawled under my husband's chair, behind mine, but we just stayed seated, kind of away from the hubbub. Within about 10 minutes or so, he was tugging at the length of the leash to smell the people sitting closest to us (one happened to be a new neighbor who has two dogs who we'd like to get him together with on a play date). Ultimately he was pretty relaxed while we were there, and as I said, never barked, never submissive/fear peed or anything like that. So the worst problem seems to be on his territory. I think meeting other dogs won't be an issue as long as we do it on neutral ground.

Thanks so much for the feedback. I'll definitely check out that Yahoo group!
02-18-2014 09:58 AM
3dognite
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Originally Posted by Stosh View Post
Your dog is still just a pup and instinct and behaviors are changing. I made the mistake of forcing too many people on Stosh around that age when he was giving me clear signals that he wasn't ready- submissive peeing in particular. I'd take it slow and don't overwhelm him with well meaning friends who just want to love and pet and hug your pup. The most important relationship to establish right now is between you and Odin. He needs to know that you will protect him and he may be asking for that now. He won't mature for another 18 mos or so- there's no hurry. I would crate him while others are over and if he's comfortable with that, let him out but ask people to ignore him for now. They can throw a treat on the floor but not interact. It sounds as though he's trying to tell you that it's too much for him right now
Thanks, yes, we did have some pretty serious submissive/excited peeing initially which now seems to be largely done. It's funny having to greet people at the door and say, "I know you want to play with the puppy but for now, please just ignore him". But that's what we'll do.
02-18-2014 07:49 AM
llombardo Has he taken any obedience classes? One of the things we work on is passing a stranger with a dog, dogs are to ignore each other and stranger.
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