|Yesterday 10:29 PM|
|glowingtoadfly||I am actually anti-ban... and learning more about the proper use of these tools every day, despite choosing to work AF with my own dogs. I just felt that Karen was given a bad rap for making a mistake with her cat. I think that the AF people are trying to keep these tools out of the wrong hands. It can be compared to firearms bans, actually. It is a different tool in different hands, some people are for castle doctrine and concealed carry, some are for outright bans.|
|Yesterday 10:18 PM|
When I put an e-collar in a kids hand and find their working level, they giggle.
You don't have a dog in this fight because you lack the knowledge necessary to understand how the tools are applied.
The tool has nothing to do with instilling fear in a dog. The person with their finger on the button does.
|Yesterday 09:25 PM|
Ben: An Aggressive Dog Case Study | Karen Pryor Clicker Training
Look at how Karen Pryor was able to help Ben and Emma. I think she is being judged too harshly in this thread for making a controversial choice. I recently came upon a story of a dog, I can't say where, who was so scarred by ecollar overuse that he shook when he heard his name. He had to be given a new name. He also shook when he heard "platz". These are tools to be respected, and sometimes they are not. When they are not, the dog suffers.
|04-04-2014 05:18 PM|
I have one male cat that has UTI on Royal Canin S/O for life..17 years so far.
The other guys (always the males) are just A holes they don't seem to like throws in the kitchen, a book shelf in the living room and a cup board in the dinning room!
Wish they made E collars for cats!! But I don't know who's doing it and I never see them?
A hole neighbor yet again!! If not for him we would mostly now have only one or maybe three cats but not 8. That's still down from 13 or was it 15??
One was pregnant and I'm pro life as it were. So one became 4, I did place one kitten..should have kept at it.
And then the A hole neighbor abandoned a mom and three kittens! So I brought then in from the snow and they stayed.
Oh well for the most part, they are a lot of fun.
The indoor guys (save for one) are actually door trained, snap and tishh sound they turn right around..won't go out the door into the back yard and they act like we don't even have a front door!
|04-04-2014 04:13 PM|
I had a Siamese kitty that started peeing outside of the litter box. It was not like him at all. One day he walked into the livingroom while I was watching TV, went into a corner peed and looked at me and cried so pitifully. I took him to the vet next morning and he had urinary crystals. Poor thing was trying to tell me he was in pain. Some people aren't careful enough with litter box cleaning. I've seen it happen when a new cat or other pet is introduced. Usually with the kitties it's a sign of illness or stress.
@ chip, glad the info was helpful. . You may want to watch the show on animal planet, "my cat from he.." Actual title. It's interesting what makes cats tick.
|04-04-2014 03:47 PM|
|Blanketback||Mice love to nest underneath the stovetop - I couldn't use my stove once the mice got at it - since it wasn't used frequently enough, while my place sat empty. OMG, the smell when I turned the oven on could knock you down! It was garbage after that. Never let a place sit empty and let mice take over! But maybe her cat was trying to cover the scent left by mice? Who knows, if cats do that, the way a dog will?|
|04-04-2014 03:07 PM|
The thought of urine on stove burners has solidified my determination to never again have an indoor cat. I like cats. I had a lovely cat. And my parents had a cat. But with asthma and having to have the litter box in the vanity in the bathroom with a cat door in one of the doors to keep the dogs from feasting on its contents -- there are few things worse than a sloppy canine kiss after said canine had been at the litter box.
But now, I think that if I ever, ever consider another indoor cat, like for the rodents that tend to come in when it gets cold out there, I will think of urine on stove burners, and get a rat terrier of some variety instead.
|04-04-2014 11:33 AM|
Throw rugs and a book shelf seem to be targets?? Never considered PTS??
But hen I'm "not" a professional.
|04-04-2014 11:25 AM|
|Blanketback||But here we're both adding an aversive to suppress behavior - in other words, we're using +P. This is wrong! Don't ask me why it's wrong, it just is. LOL!|
|04-04-2014 11:20 AM|
Yup, they don't like that feel under their paws OR a rubber car matt (new) turned upside down so the nubby side is up, it has the little sharp nubs on the bottom. Kitties will stay off of that as well.
See....so many simple solutions......
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