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04-20-2014 05:01 PM
selzer
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We only have a few who can't have candy, and those on sugar free diets are often very well behaved children :-)
That's because they are on a sugar-free diet.

I swear, sugar is evil.

I just gave my sister's kids a basketful.
04-20-2014 04:42 PM
glowingtoadfly We only have a few who can't have candy, and those on sugar free diets are often very well behaved children :-)
04-20-2014 04:39 PM
bill Thanks gtf. Bill

n.c.
04-20-2014 04:38 PM
Blanketback Wow, I'd be so pissed if I got a sticker instead of candy! But seriously, do you notice that these kids that don't get the candy aren't as willing to please?

Have fun out there Bill!
04-20-2014 04:35 PM
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04-20-2014 04:32 PM
bill Thank you Blanket back!! Bill. P.S.
I thought a harbinger was bad news could be wrong gtf soooo glad for spring! Going too work play with Stahl!! Everyone have a great day! Bill

n.c.
04-20-2014 04:31 PM
glowingtoadfly
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My sister has a very small seven year old, who has a marked behavior response to sugar. Now, when I was a child, we went to church and we went to pre-school or school, and we got candy on Christmas Eve and Valentine's Day at school. They did not give the kids candy on Easter (though we were there) because they figured the family had it covered.

Pastor's moments NEVER had any type of candy. Sunday school had no candy or treats, though, they often had a coffee hour after the second service. Bible school ALWAYS had a snack and that was usually cookies and Kool-Aid, the only reason we went, I think.

But, yes, they did have corporal punishment in those days, and while church and SS never had this mentioned, nor did I ever see a kid taken out to be straightened out by The Board of Education from these, they were in school. And yet, it wasn't an every day occurence. They were pretty free with a yardstick in the early years, or a ping pong paddle, they used a donkey tail for tattling, and the older teachers all had their paddles, specially and individually designed with holes in them and contour handles for the best movement and whirring sounds.

They stationed these right on their chalk tray of their blackboards, and it was never out of sight or out of mind.

These days they use an awful lot of sugar, and if you have a kid whose behavior becomes markedly obnoxious when you pump sugar into them, it can be a big problem. And if you tell the teacher NOT to give the kids sugar, they act as though you are crippling them. My sister has special non-sugar snacks that she provides the teacher with for her daughter, but it is treated like an imposition, to not be able to give them sugar, chocolate.

I am not a fan of all that. Kids need to learn that they must behave, and they should not expect a gold nugget every time they manage it. We do not have to go back to the dark ages where kids were strapped for just about everything, but especially with the obesity problem with kids, teachers have to have more in their toolboxes than chocolate.
We use raisins and nuts and/or stickers for those who can't handle sugar :-)
04-20-2014 04:25 PM
selzer
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I work in daycare. We are not allowed to punish other people's children. So I use a lot of chocolate and sticker bribes, as well as keeping wandering children in a fence instead of allowing them the choice to wander, as well as a predictable schedule so they know what to expect/do at certain times, singing certain songs to cue them about what is going to happen... The same goes for my dogs. Rhythm and schedule provide discipline.
My sister has a very small seven year old, who has a marked behavior response to sugar. Now, when I was a child, we went to church and we went to pre-school or school, and we got candy on Christmas Eve and Valentine's Day at school. They did not give the kids candy on Easter (though we were there) because they figured the family had it covered.

Pastor's moments NEVER had any type of candy. Sunday school had no candy or treats, though, they often had a coffee hour after the second service. Bible school ALWAYS had a snack and that was usually cookies and Kool-Aid, the only reason we went, I think.

But, yes, they did have corporal punishment in those days, and while church and SS never had this mentioned, nor did I ever see a kid taken out to be straightened out by The Board of Education from these, they were in school. And yet, it wasn't an every day occurence. They were pretty free with a yardstick in the early years, or a ping pong paddle, they used a donkey tail for tattling, and the older teachers all had their paddles, specially and individually designed with holes in them and contour handles for the best movement and whirring sounds.

They stationed these right on their chalk tray of their blackboards, and it was never out of sight or out of mind.

These days they use an awful lot of sugar, and if you have a kid whose behavior becomes markedly obnoxious when you pump sugar into them, it can be a big problem. And if you tell the teacher NOT to give the kids sugar, they act as though you are crippling them. My sister has special non-sugar snacks that she provides the teacher with for her daughter, but it is treated like an imposition, to not be able to give them sugar, chocolate.

I am not a fan of all that. Kids need to learn that they must behave, and they should not expect a gold nugget every time they manage it. We do not have to go back to the dark ages where kids were strapped for just about everything, but especially with the obesity problem with kids, teachers have to have more in their toolboxes than chocolate.
04-20-2014 04:23 PM
glowingtoadfly Scheduled exercise and training provide discipline in that a tired, often trained dog is less likely to act out. Redirection and time outs and no are also used. Happy Eostre, day of the dawn goddess and harbinger of Spring!
04-20-2014 04:11 PM
Blanketback Happy Easter to you too Bill, and everyone!

GTF, I just saw your edit: "Rhythm and schedule provide discipline." How do you figure that? Establishing a routine isn't going to affect how a dog learns something - other than how to tell time, if the routine never changes. Mine know this, as far as mealtime goes.
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