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02-18-2014 06:20 PM
Mocha My first concern would just be his under-developed immune system. Can you be sure that there are no diseases lurking?

When mine was about 5-6? months a couple of pit bulls attacked him. I was very lucky that 1) I watch my dog like a HAWK 2) no damage was done and 3) some how it strengthened our bond? He saw very clearly that it was me who pulled them off and it seemed as if it officially clicked in his eyes that I'm his protector. I got lucky, I've heard it normally has the opposite effect in which the dog realizes you can't protect him from everything. Others don't. The same dogs attacked a retriever and ripped the poor girls ear off pretty bad.

We now only go at the same time where I've learned every (regular) dog's habits. I'm wary of new dogs, especially with those who have disillusioned owners.


And yes, those dogs stopped coming.


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02-17-2014 03:31 PM
llombardo
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Quite the opposite he was not a "bully" and he was SchH. trained. Being intact until the age of 3.5 a few dogs started scuffles with him, they tried to bully him but he would not any of that. My youngster is very happy, if an incident happens he'll learn, I want him to absorb as much as he can.
It doesn't matter how they are trained. No dog should be subjected to any kind of bullying, taking it or dishing it out. A dog should never be set up to fail. Socializing is so much more then a dog park. Being in the same area as other dogs serves the purpose well, as does training classes. Going to the park being around kids, climbing on the equipment, etc is great socialization.
02-17-2014 03:12 PM
DJEtzel
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Quite the opposite he was not a "bully" and he was SchH. trained. Being intact until the age of 3.5 a few dogs started scuffles with him, they tried to bully him but he would not any of that. My youngster is very happy, if an incident happens he'll learn, I want him to absorb as much as he can.
He'll learn, or he'll be "damaged goods" and risk harming others due to bad experiences during a prime window for socialization.

Also coming from someone who uses dog parks regulary - some are ok for dogs this young or smaller - my border collie started going to the dog park at 8 weeks, because I knew the dogs and they required vaccinations so I knew there was not parvo in the park anymore than there was tracked into my house from the park.
02-17-2014 03:06 PM
SoCal Rebell
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You sound proud that your last dog ruled (bullied) at the dog park, sounds like lack of training to me. You also seem to be quite hung up on having the "Dominate alpha male". Which is probably why you let him bully, and want your new puppy to bully. Why not take him to a timid dog park? What are you trying to teach? Do you look for non timid parks? Are you 15 and still trying to show how tuff you are? Im happy with my dog having the ability and genetics to help protect if the need arises, but I can see no need for him to learn to protect me from a dog.
Quite the opposite he was not a "bully" and he was SchH. trained. Being intact until the age of 3.5 a few dogs started scuffles with him, they tried to bully him but he would not any of that. My youngster is very happy, if an incident happens he'll learn, I want him to absorb as much as he can.
02-17-2014 06:10 AM
llombardo
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While I appreciate all the input my last GSD ruled DP from 2 years on, he was the dominant alpha male. Starting at as young and age he took his lumps as well as as handed them out, more the latter. Rebell already shows the same tendinitis. 5 acres are a big enough off leash park to where if he backs down he won't get hurt, at 13 weeks and 35# he is fairly formidable. I ain't taking him to timid DP, nothing to be learned there.




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This kind of thought process that doesn't hurt you but can hurt your dog. It's not a pretty lesson to learn. It costed me a couple thousand(until other owner repaid me) when my 4 month old was attacked . There was no running away, he was jumped on immediately. If he did run it would have made it harder for me to get to him, so thankfully that didn't happen. The dog park is a place for neutral dogs, no bullies should ever be allowed . Just remember that sadly there are always other people that think like you and because of that there will always be a bigger badder dog there. And also know that my pup that was attacked was there with another dog that he is very close to. She did not protect him or try to jump in the fight, I would have been really screwed if that happened. That same female is a true alpha dog, which is a dog that demands and gets respect by just being present. She has earned that "title" She is never messed with because dogs know not to. Any dog that dishes anything out is not Alpha. She has never been in a fight because she doesn't need to be, she walks away and other dogs go about their business because they are smart enough to know better.
02-17-2014 01:33 AM
DobbyDad You sound proud that your last dog ruled (bullied) at the dog park, sounds like lack of training to me. You also seem to be quite hung up on having the "Dominate alpha male". Which is probably why you let him bully, and want your new puppy to bully. Why not take him to a timid dog park? What are you trying to teach? Do you look for non timid parks? Are you 15 and still trying to show how tuff you are? Im happy with my dog having the ability and genetics to help protect if the need arises, but I can see no need for him to learn to protect me from a dog.
02-16-2014 10:36 PM
SoCal Rebell While I appreciate all the input my last GSD ruled DP from 2 years on, he was the dominant alpha male. Starting at as young and age he took his lumps as well as as handed them out, more the latter. Rebell already shows the same tendinitis. 5 acres are a big enough off leash park to where if he backs down he won't get hurt, at 13 weeks and 35# he is fairly formidable. I ain't taking him to timid DP, nothing to be learned there.




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02-16-2014 09:42 PM
Twyla There have been several pups on here messed up at dog parks that the family was comfortable with. It only takes one out of control dog to leave a lasting impression.

Check out this link on socialization - excellent discussion on it:

http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...alization.html
02-16-2014 09:18 PM
Mocha I have to agree that he is way too young to be at a dog park. There are plenty of other ways to socialize him right now. If he is only 13 weeks then he isn't old enough to have had all his shots. You're really testing his under-developed immune system. And I don't say that cause I hate dog parks (seems to be a dirty word here LOL) like most people, I actually frequent dog parks five-six days a week. I just waited for my puppy to be older before taking him. And agreed, his sister can't protect him against a pack. In my experience, dog fights tend to happen with more than just two dogs involved. I saw one that somehow started between two and ended up with five in there. Scary!

One thing I experienced is that some dogs seem/seemed to pick on my puppy the most. Most likely for his age and eventually coming into sexual maturity.

I just love how much it tires him out, but its always better to be safe than sorry

I've always favored sables but seeing all these pictures is making me fall for some other coat colors !
02-16-2014 07:25 PM
doggiedad 13 weeks old he's not intimidating to an older dog. his 113 lb sister
can't do anything if there's several dogs being aggressive. it's very
important to socialize them early and continue to do it when they're
older. you have to be careful how you're socializing. i think
with a 13 week old pup it's better to have play dates with
a few calm dogs. i'm not against dog parks. i took my dog many
times to dog parks. there's 1,700 acres of woods near my house.
the people living around the woods gather so their dogs can play
with each other. there's groups of people and their dogs spread out
all over the woods. the section i visit sometimes has 25 dogs (all
kinds of breeds and size) romping having fun but i didn't go near
the grops of dogs untill my dog was 6 months or so. before that
i set up play groups for training and socializing.


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He has his Distemper and Parvo less then 2 weeks he gets his final Rabies,

he has never been attacked and when a dog intimidates him he just goes back at him/her. No fear and he already had his pack, and mommy Golden Retriever is protective, we feel comfortable there. I feel it is important to socialize them early, he'll be close to 100 lbs. in a year, his grandfather was SchH 3 KKL1 he's definitely an Alpha male.


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