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02-12-2014 07:35 PM
Chris Wild Fair is passing, and thus breedable and I would (and have) bred to a fair dog. As someone else mentioned, if I had to choose I'd take a fair out of a litter of fairs over an excellent with a bunch of dysplastic littermates. And we must always look at the total dog, not just one facet.

Looking at the hip status of not just the direct ancestors, but also the siblings, aunts, uncles, cousins, grandparent's siblings, as well as progeny of those is an important part of researching hip genetics in a pedigree regardless of what the hip score is of the individual dog in consideration.
02-12-2014 06:44 PM
JakodaCD OA no problem for me for mostly the reasons above
02-12-2014 06:43 PM
Wild Wolf Fair isn't dysplastic, but I would still look at ancestors, siblings, and other relatives to the dog to determine hip production.
02-12-2014 06:39 PM
robk Yes. My dog's mother is OFA fair. I am keeping her for the winter and she is such a nice nice bitch. There is so much more to a dog than just the hip scores.
02-12-2014 06:39 PM
onyx'girl My male came from a stud with fair hips. I think the reason he wasn't used much was because of his hip rating. He was an amazing dog. My male was rated fair as well.
02-12-2014 06:18 PM

I think the problem stems from people thinking, "fair is almost dysplastic" which is not the case.
It certainly seems that way..
02-12-2014 01:58 PM
Originally Posted by G-burg View Post

I know I would if I liked everything else about the breeding pair.. And they would have to be titled..
Ditto, and I'd look into the siblings, ancestors, progeny, ZW scores if they have them.
02-12-2014 01:44 PM
gsdsar I think the problem stems from people thinking, "fair is almost dysplastic" which is not the case.

I agree with looking at an entire pedigree, the historical hip production of littermates and siblings and generations behind the dog.

I would be more apt to buy a puppy from a parent with "fair" hips, if their lines have a strong consistent record of acceptable hips, than a puppy from "excellent" parents that have numerous dysplastic dogs in the history.

2 dysplastic dogs can produce a pup with "excellent" hips. But I would not want to breed back to that dog

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02-12-2014 01:37 PM
wolfstraum Basha - who had 'B" hips in Belgium produced a ton of OFA Goods and 2 OFA Excellents and one Fair (titled in Sch,RH, SAR dog).....Fair is not dysplastic. It is more less that perfect than Good is less than perfect.. I bred Kyra to Xito - Good to Fair and got 2 prelim Goods and 2 official Goods and the next generation has had alot of Goods as well.

02-12-2014 01:28 PM
Doc Depends on the hips behind the dogs and relatives.
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