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02-12-2014 08:35 PM
FirefighterGSD
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Originally Posted by alexxromeo View Post
Thank you. I just don't want to make the mistake of being impetuous and settling for something I may not be as happy with.

I figure good things come to those who wait.
One of my favorite sayings! It really does end up being true more often than you'd think. It's right up there with "It's better to be safe, than sorry".....
02-12-2014 08:10 PM
alexxromeo
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Originally Posted by SuperG View Post
I applaud your research and due diligence in the pursuit of your next best buddy ever......

SuperG
Thank you. I just don't want to make the mistake of being impetuous and settling for something I may not be as happy with.

I figure good things come to those who wait.
02-12-2014 04:23 PM
SuperG
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Originally Posted by alexxromeo View Post
Okay so the reply email from century farms has led me down a big no path. I don't like that Zak has prelim "fair" hips and he has said he will not lower the price with any clauses. He thinks 1500 is fair, and to each his own (IMO). Just for everyone's knowledge: he doesn't have the dogs titled because he lives in ozark area (which is super country) with no one to sport train and has a 9yo daughter that makes it too much work to travel to train.

Windy hollow has no litters until fall so they are also out.. The do have some pups now but they are males and I really want a female.

Holtgrew has nothing planned

I'm going to continue waiting on Huerta Hof and Mittlewest

I applaud your research and due diligence in the pursuit of your next best buddy ever......

SuperG
02-12-2014 01:51 PM
kr16
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Originally Posted by Kayos and Havoc View Post
Alexander good call on Century Farms. I would want to see final hip scores especially if the prelim was fair. Hips could go better or worse with another year of age on them.

I agree to check out the fb page I am on there too (even tho I do not breed) and there are some nice breeders there.

Sometimes you do have to expand your search area to get what you want when you want it. Personally I would drive 12 hours one way for a pup. Don't discount breeders that will ship to you also. If you really want to meet the breeder and pups first you may have to plan some travel. Hey road trips are fun!
I agree, I did a South Florida to Ohio road trip. I always like to see the parents. Almost went to Indiana but decided on the working lines over Robin and Mittlewest.
02-12-2014 01:40 PM
Kayos and Havoc Alexander good call on Century Farms. I would want to see final hip scores especially if the prelim was fair. Hips could go better or worse with another year of age on them.

I agree to check out the fb page I am on there too (even tho I do not breed) and there are some nice breeders there.

Sometimes you do have to expand your search area to get what you want when you want it. Personally I would drive 12 hours one way for a pup. Don't discount breeders that will ship to you also. If you really want to meet the breeder and pups first you may have to plan some travel. Hey road trips are fun!
02-12-2014 01:35 PM
alexxromeo
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If you go on that facebook page I gave you, lots of pups from different breeders ready to go. take a look at it.
I clicked to join and haven't been accepted yet!
02-12-2014 01:18 PM
kr16
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Originally Posted by alexxromeo View Post
Okay so the reply email from century farms has led me down a big no path. I don't like that Zak has prelim "fair" hips and he has said he will not lower the price with any clauses. He thinks 1500 is fair, and to each his own (IMO). Just for everyone's knowledge: he doesn't have the dogs titled because he lives in ozark area (which is super country) with no one to sport train and has a 9yo daughter that makes it too much work to travel to train.

Windy hollow has no litters until fall so they are also out.. The do have some pups now but they are males and I really want a female.

Holtgrew has nothing planned

I'm going to continue waiting on Huerta Hof and Mittlewest
If you go on that facebook page I gave you, lots of pups from different breeders ready to go. take a look at it.
02-12-2014 12:59 PM
alexxromeo Okay so the reply email from century farms has led me down a big no path. I don't like that Zak has prelim "fair" hips and he has said he will not lower the price with any clauses. He thinks 1500 is fair, and to each his own (IMO). Just for everyone's knowledge: he doesn't have the dogs titled because he lives in ozark area (which is super country) with no one to sport train and has a 9yo daughter that makes it too much work to travel to train.

Windy hollow has no litters until fall so they are also out.. The do have some pups now but they are males and I really want a female.

Holtgrew has nothing planned

I'm going to continue waiting on Huerta Hof and Mittlewest
02-12-2014 12:24 PM
Merciel
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Originally Posted by dogfaeries View Post
It's very common among dog show people to offer puppies that they don't feel are show quality on a spay/neuter contract with limited registration, for a lower price. You can still get a nice puppy, and don't have to pay a fortune.
Oh, duh. Yes, of course you're right, and the OP even said he was leaning toward looking at show lines.

Sorry, retract what I said earlier, I had totally brain-glitched on the normalcy of tiered pricing with regard to "show quality"/"pet quality" puppies from conformation breeders. (That said, I do still think full registration vs. limited registration can be a red flag, especially if the breeder is willing to switch registration type just based on the buyer paying more... but yeah, that's why I said I was oversimplifying. In short: if the puppy's registration type changes based on price paid, and NOT on the individual puppy's quality, that is a red flag.)

Many apologies to all concerned. You can tell it's been a few months since I looked at show breeders.


re: Mittelwest -- it's worth running a search for the kennel name on this forum. Lots of old threads with varying opinions and experiences.
02-12-2014 10:19 AM
Kayos and Havoc Thanks gsdsar. I am seeing a lot of the DDR/Czech pairings and it seems the flavor of the day.

Ripoff reports....... I do agree they may simply be disgruntled, but not always. In the interest of the board rules I won't go into my experience with one of my dogs (could be past or present) where the report on the breeder in rip off reports was spot on and exactly mirrored my own experience. I did not post a report. However, the report I did read was rebutted by the breeder and after having a similar experience with the breeder I knew the breeder was simply not telling the whole story.

I would simply use it as a reminder to do homework and be reasonable. Rip off reports is a tool like any other tool.

I know AgileGSD has a Mittelwest dog and is just thrilled with him. I think Mittelwest is just about 4 hours from the OP as well, would be an easy drive to visit.
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