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02-12-2014 12:13 PM
Lilie
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Originally Posted by shilorio View Post
Oh my goodness that made me laugh out loud in my lecture class.
It is almost spot on! But I do not praise for it.
I only praise when he is quiet and actually leaves it.
Then it's a party (: hahaha
I only knew because we've ALL been there, done that!
02-12-2014 12:08 PM
shilorio
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Originally Posted by Lilie View Post
This ^^^ !!!!! This is what is currently happening between you and your dog:

Dog: Whoo Hoo! I love walks with my person! I love her!

Person: Oh...I know he's going to start barking. I know he will. I've got to do something to stop him.....

Dog: Hey! Why you stressing?? It's all rainbows and unicorns here!!!

Person: Oh great. Here comes someone. Great. He's going to go nuts!

Dog: Why is she stress...wait!?! What's that??? She's stressing and here comes a dog and person!!! What am I supposed to do?

Person: OH NO! He's noticed them! "Look, fido!" "Leave it!" "Sit!" "Crap! Come'on! I look like an idiot! They think I don't know what I'm doing here!"

Dog: It must be a monster! She's falling apart! I don't know what I'm supposed to do! I'll keep barking - maybe they'll stay away! This must be serious! She's all over the place! I don't know what is expected of me! I must make a HUGE show and they'll stay away from us!!!

Person: "It's all right, Fido. Good boy. Calm down. They're gone."

Dog: She's loving on me. I must have done a good job. I'll make sure I keep everyone away.
Oh my goodness that made me laugh out loud in my lecture class.
It is almost spot on! But I do not praise for it.
I only praise when he is quiet and actually leaves it.
Then it's a party (: hahaha
02-12-2014 10:35 AM
Lilie
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Originally Posted by onyx'girl View Post
I'd suggest doing the LAT and BAT exercises. Your dog is still immature mentally and his threshold level is playing into his reactivity(genetic). If you do more to let him know that you have his back, he can let go and the burden of being 'on' all the time is lifted...so his reactivity level is lessened.
google for more info on LAT/ BAT...there are plenty of links.
This ^^^ !!!!! This is what is currently happening between you and your dog:

Dog: Whoo Hoo! I love walks with my person! I love her!

Person: Oh...I know he's going to start barking. I know he will. I've got to do something to stop him.....

Dog: Hey! Why you stressing?? It's all rainbows and unicorns here!!!

Person: Oh great. Here comes someone. Great. He's going to go nuts!

Dog: Why is she stress...wait!?! What's that??? She's stressing and here comes a dog and person!!! What am I supposed to do?

Person: OH NO! He's noticed them! "Look, fido!" "Leave it!" "Sit!" "Crap! Come'on! I look like an idiot! They think I don't know what I'm doing here!"

Dog: It must be a monster! She's falling apart! I don't know what I'm supposed to do! I'll keep barking - maybe they'll stay away! This must be serious! She's all over the place! I don't know what is expected of me! I must make a HUGE show and they'll stay away from us!!!

Person: "It's all right, Fido. Good boy. Calm down. They're gone."

Dog: She's loving on me. I must have done a good job. I'll make sure I keep everyone away.
02-11-2014 11:55 PM
shilorio Okay thanks guys. I will look that up and work on those ASAP .thanks so mix for all your help guys.
02-11-2014 11:40 PM
David Taggart His behaviour is typical of dogs who were chained or locked away from outside world since they were puppies. His barking is a territorial barking, the only thing a chained dog can afford to enjoy. If he didn't bark before - that is only because he was busy adjusting his senses to new owner and new environment and didn't mind them as his own property. Unlike some others, who suggest you to give him a break, I propose to provide him intensive training, as much as you can, use as many methods as you can, do not pity him exercising, a busy life is a life away from his inner self. But that would solve only half of the trouble, because it is connected to his frustrating and boring past. The other half is a continuation of the past on his new territory. Appearance of strangers and unknown dogs on his territory daily continue building a new stereotype which you can destroy rather easily: you should install an impression into him that their presence brings him pleasure. Keep him hungry before walks and feed him in the park, not everything at once, but when you notice that some stranger caught his attention.
02-11-2014 09:32 PM
onyx'girl I'd suggest doing the LAT and BAT exercises. Your dog is still immature mentally and his threshold level is playing into his reactivity(genetic). If you do more to let him know that you have his back, he can let go and the burden of being 'on' all the time is lifted...so his reactivity level is lessened.
google for more info on LAT/ BAT...there are plenty of links.
02-11-2014 09:21 PM
shilorio Maybe he just get so over whelmed and full of anxiety he can't help but act ip?
02-11-2014 10:05 AM
shilorio
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Originally Posted by Chip18 View Post
OK trying to think this over, So far between you and your dog both we have,bark,bark,bark,stress,stress,stress,school,sc hool,school and train,train,train, It maybe an oversimplification but I don't hear,see any down time?

Do you and your dog ever just relax together, others have suggested it also? Not a run or training around other dogs to see if he needs more training...just take a break?

I don't think the problem is exercise because , I'm exhausted reading about all the stuff you guys do! So I doubt he's bored and that's why he barks.

So why does he bark? In it's simplest terms, you can't fix something if you don't know what's wrong. It doesn't strike me that it's fear based barking? But you "think it's fear based? You know your dog not us, but maybe a third opinion is needed?

My thought is, you did say he was a shelter dog. Most likely barking is how he got attention in the shelter? How is it you chose him, was he the dog barking the loudest? He doesn't need to do that now but he doesn't seem to know that.

If it's fear based barking that is one thing, if it's a learned behavior that's another! Maybe it's time to get a second option from a dog behaviorist? You can ask for a consolidation.

I did with my first dog, (BullMastiff/Pit mix) I thought he was a Dominate Aggressive Male, the guy checked Gunther out and told me your dogs a Dominate Male but not Aggressive...he's just an A Hole! I could work with that!

Anyway just something to think about, you and your dog also need to have some time to decompress, dogs are suppose to be a joy not a chore.

Just a thought.
He was found as a stray in california. And pulled from a rescue to come up here to wa.
A lady got him an Gave up on him, going him to
My old dog trainer. Who kept him in a kennel with a shock colar, beat him, and never let him out.
I told her I wanted him.
The dog wouldn't let me touch him. Wouldn't play fetch, couldn't run. Affair of stairs. Everything was scary to him,
Then he had a phase of barking at peopke. Every one that walked by. (He only barks at people now of they are ataring at him and walking towards him or of it's on my property or really dark and knows I'm scared)
So he started shapin into a dog, I started taking himore places, service dog training, then I though "he needs training just to grow up" so I slowed down the vest training and started working on tricks and basics.
And I go to this field and sometimes there is a dog there and I'll train around them and he will do really good! It's just other days..
But I've noticed the more I work with basics just me and him and take a break from the out side world, he gets more barky and anxious.
So I really do wonder what is causeing it..
If a dog is off leash or a owner let's there dog come up to him with him unexpecting it (with out me making him wait and say hi for a short sniff) he will growl and try to bite them.
Is he having the leash problem ( that he feels volnirable and left out when on the leash?) because off leash he plays with dogs unless they are puppies or little ones then he is too tough.

I took him out last night and relaxed with him aroun the house. Before we went to bed, and he was being a good boy.
02-11-2014 02:05 AM
Chip18 OK trying to think this over, So far between you and your dog both we have,bark,bark,bark,stress,stress,stress,school,sc hool,school and train,train,train, It maybe an oversimplification but I don't hear,see any down time?

Do you and your dog ever just relax together, others have suggested it also? Not a run or training around other dogs to see if he needs more training...just take a break?

I don't think the problem is exercise because , I'm exhausted reading about all the stuff you guys do! So I doubt he's bored and that's why he barks.

So why does he bark? In it's simplest terms, you can't fix something if you don't know what's wrong. It doesn't strike me that it's fear based barking? But you "think it's fear based? You know your dog not us, but maybe a third opinion is needed?

My thought is, you did say he was a shelter dog. Most likely barking is how he got attention in the shelter? How is it you chose him, was he the dog barking the loudest? He doesn't need to do that now but he doesn't seem to know that.

If it's fear based barking that is one thing, if it's a learned behavior that's another! Maybe it's time to get a second option from a dog behaviorist? You can ask for a consolidation.

I did with my first dog, (BullMastiff/Pit mix) I thought he was a Dominate Aggressive Male, the guy checked Gunther out and told me your dogs a Dominate Male but not Aggressive...he's just an A Hole! I could work with that!

Anyway just something to think about, you and your dog also need to have some time to decompress, dogs are suppose to be a joy not a chore.

Just a thought.
02-11-2014 12:35 AM
David Winners I would recommend ending the training session before he has the opportunity to start acting up. Try and remove the possibility of him practicing the behavior. I would shorten the exposure times and up the focus criteria while you are out. If you have a trained focus command, use it, and wait longer durations before engaging him with fun OB stuff. Make the wait times variable, but be sure not to go over his limit. His attention span will grow, as will his ability to ignore other stimulus.
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