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02-09-2014 10:50 PM
gsdlover91 He could have a systemic yeast infection. They're pretty hard to get rid of, and affect the whole body - from ears to the GI tract (yeast overabundance in the gut can cause loose stools)

You can try putting a small amount (a tsp I believe) of raw apple cider vinegar into his water/food daily, and for the ears, the stuff that worked for my dog (he had nasty yeast ear infections for a majority of his first year) was Zymox Otic 1%.

It is enzymes and hydrocortisone, it worked really well for us. The 1% is available only through the vet so you'd have to ask them, otherwise you can get a 0.5% OTC.
02-09-2014 09:57 PM
Momto2GSDs Quote: "Thank you! I checked into Northwest and I can't find it in my area, I found Bravo and it's going to cost me $160.00 a week to feed him the required 14 pounds! I would be interested in the holistic vets in NJ when you have time."

If you do change clinics, ask for an appointment with the vet educated in Homeopathy/Homeotoxicology so that they can help to "balance" your dogs system.
Good luck!
Moms

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Buchoff, Gerald
BVScAH
HOLISTIC PET CARE, P.A.
973-256-3899
125 Paterson Avenue
Little Falls
NJ
07424
United States
www.hpcnj.com
AVIAN, EQUINE, EXOTIC, HOUSE CALLS, SMALL ANIMAL
Acupuncture, Bach Flowers, Chinese Herbs, Chiropractic, Chiropractic (AVCA), Clinical Nutrition, Conventional Medicine, Glandular Therapy, Homeopathy, Homeopathy-Classical, Homotoxicology, Nutrition, Ozone Therapy, Reiki, VOM, Western Herbs




Collins, Karen
VMD
215-687-6245
V-Crest
Moorestown
NJ
08057
United States
www.holisticpethealing.byregion.net
SMALL ANIMAL
Acupuncture, Acupuncture (CHI), Bach Flowers, Chinese Herbs (Chi Institute), Conventional Medicine, Homotoxicology, Nutrition, Reiki




Fischer, Kenneth
DVM
HILLSDALE ANIMAL HOSPITAL
201-358-6520
201 BROADWAY
Hillsdale
NJ
07642
United States
www.healingvet.com
SMALL ANIMAL
Acupuncture, Acupuncture (IVAS), Bach Flowers, Chinese Herbs, Chiropractic, Chiropractic (AVCA), Clinical Nutrition, Conventional Medicine, Glandular Therapy, Homotoxicology, Nutrition








Lounsberry, Sheila
DVM
VETERINARY ACUPUNCTURE SERVICES, INC
973-726-6414
66 WOODPORT ROAD
Sparta
NJ
07871
United States
www.drlounsberry.com
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Manziano, Rosemary
DVM
COLTS NECK ANIMAL CLINIC
732-780-4211
261 Rt 34
Colts Neck
NJ
07722-1714
United States
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Newkirk, Mark
VMD
Newkirk Family Veterinarians
609-645-2120
9200 Ventnor Avenue
Margate
NJ
08402
United States
www.newkirkfamilyveterinarians.com
AVIAN, EXOTIC, SMALL ANIMAL
Applied Kinesiology, Bach Flowers, Chinese Herbs, Chiropractic, Clinical Nutrition, Conventional Medicine, Glandular Therapy, Homeopathy, Homotoxicology, IAT (Immuno-Augmentive Therapy), NAET, Ozone Therapy, VOM, Western Herbs


Rodrigues, Wendy
DVM
908-892-9991
Warren
NJ
07059
United States
www.VisitingVetNJ.com
HOUSE CALLS, SMALL ANIMAL
Acupuncture (IVAS), Acupuncture (Tufts), Applied Kinesiology, Chinese Herbs (Chi Institute), Conventional Medicine, Homotoxicology, Nutrition, VOM


Stryeski, Kathleen
DVM
609-737-2800
21 Route 31 North
Pennington
NJ
08534
USA
windsongpet.com
SMALL ANIMAL
Acupuncture, Chinese Herbs, Clinical Nutrition, Homeopathy, Massage Therapy, Nutrition








Voynick, Brian
DVM
AMERICAN ANIMAL HOSPITAL
973-895-4999
1202 SUSSEX TURNPIKE
Randolph
NJ
07869
United States
www.americananimalhospital.com
SMALL ANIMAL
Acupuncture, Acupuncture (IVAS), Chinese Herbs, Chiropractic, Glandular Therapy, Homeopathy, IAT (Immuno-Augmentive Therapy), Nutrition, Pulsating Magnetic Therapy, Western Herbs
02-09-2014 09:42 PM
Doc Try a lamb and rice simple ingredient kibble. Natural Balance has one. Also look at Honest Kitchen. No treats unless they are limited ingredients.
02-09-2014 09:35 PM
doggiedad maybe get a second opinion. where are the bully sticks from?
where are they sourced? my dog was allergic to turkey. i think
he was more allergic to the injections the turkey receives.
02-09-2014 09:29 PM
Anastasia
Quote:
Originally Posted by Momto2GSDs View Post
Why not try a commercially prepared raw diet?
A raw diet is usually very successful at controlling yeast.

Northwest Naturals:
  • USDA Inspected Raw Materials
  • 100% Grain Free
  • Northwest Naturals™ is manufactured in a quality controlled USDA human food inspected facility.
  • Northwest Naturals™ is a food that is developed and manufactured by a team that has 15 years of experience in raw natural pet-food manufacturing, and backed by a 53 year old meat processing company.
  • Northwest Naturals Inc.™ uses fresh ground bone for an organic calcium source.
  • Northwest Naturals™ uses a unique flash freezing to preserve the integrity of the nutrients.
  • Northwest Naturals™ is convenient and easy to use.
  • Northwest Naturals™ offers unsurpassed quality and 100% customer satisfaction guarantees.
All Northwest Naturals Diets are complete, balanced and formulated to meet the nutritional levels established and recommended by the AAFCO Food Nutrient Profiles For All Life Stages.
http://cms.nw-naturals.net/raw/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=106&I temid=62

OR

Bravo Balance Raw Diet, the very best, nutritionally complete fresh frozen raw food diet. Bravo! Balance meets AAFCO standards for 100% complete and balanced nutrition for all life stages of a dog or cat. Available in Chicken, Turkey and Beef formulas in two product formats - 4 oz full size burgers and bulk in tubes (chubs) in two and five pound sizes. Bravo! Balance

OR

Prepare you own by using fresh, raw, ground meat (beef, turkey, chicken) from you local market (you can get reasonably priced meat at Sams' or Costco) and adding the following to insure the diet is balanced.

Steve Browns Homemade Dinner Mix to your own ground meat (beef, turkey, chicken). See Spot Live Longer™ Homemade Dinner Mixes | Product Catalog
Info: Healthy Dog Food Dinner Mixes

"When mixed according to directions, See Spot Live Longer™ Homemade Dinner Mixes are formulated to meet the nutritional levels established by the AAFCO Dog Food Nutrient Profiles for adults and for all life stages."

See Spot Live Longer™ Homemade Dinner Mixes blended with fresh lean meats (lightly cooked or raw) make the most nutritious and delicious meals you can serve your dogs.
It's easy. Just add 2 tablespoons (4 for puppies) of our special mix to one pound of fresh beef, chicken, turkey, or lamb, and add a can of sardines or fish oils weekly.
When mixed according to directions, See Spot Live Longer™ Homemade Dinner Mixes are formulated to meet the nutritional levels established by the AAFCO Dog Food Nutrient Profiles for adults and for all life stages.
A typical 35-pound dog will need one bag per month.

Ingredients: dried spinach, ground flax seed, dicalcium phosphate, oyster shell powder, dried spirulina algae, psyllium husk powder, organic dried kelp, sea salt, inulin, chelated minerals (iron, zinc, manganese and copper amino acid chelates), vitamin E, choline chloride, d-calcium pantothenate, vitamin D3, vitamin B12.

Also, if you would be interested in seeking out a Registered Holistic Vet, I can post a list for NJ. Holistic vet's treat the dog to "balance" the whole system, not just work on one issue the dog has.

Hope you find something that works for your Fur Baby!

Moms
Thank you! I checked into Northwest and I can't find it in my area, I found Bravo and it's going to cost me $160.00 a week to feed him the required 14 pounds! I would be interested in the holistic vets in NJ when you have time.

Quote:
Originally Posted by _Zero_ View Post
I'd second the suggestion for trying pre-prepared raw, or suggest you try a very low-carb food, like Wysong Epigen, Evo, or a canned food. Yeast feeds on carbohydrates. These grain-free foods (e.g. Wellness Core, Natural Balance LID) are all very high in carbs-- they replace the grains with very starchy foods like peas and potatoes. Since the dog's system is loaded with carbs, that provides fodder for yeast to grow. Hence the itching and the ear infection.

I don't necessarily think the feeding trial with a novel protein source is a bad idea, but I'd hesitate to go down that road unless you're absolutely sure it's the *protein* Jack is responding to and not the other ingredients in the food.

Evo has some balanced 95% meat canned foods. Evanger's also has some balanced canned foods that are 90% meat or greater (e.g. several varieties of their Super Premium line). Evo kibble is low carb and Wyson Epigen is starch-free, and advertises itself as the lowest carb dog kibble on the market. Orijen's varieties are also relatively low carb. Most of the pre-prepared raw varieties will also be much lower in carbs than kibbles, and should you choose to be adventurous, going prey-model raw will eliminate all of the carbs from his diet entirely.

Here is a VERY simple raw dog food recipe that is supposed to starve out yeast:

Yeast Starvation Dog Food Recipe - Homemade Dog Food

It should be relatively inexpensive to try.

It might be worth looking into a high carb load as the source of your pup's yeast issues before going down the "food allergy" route. Very few dogs have true allergies to food, although they can develop intolerance to protein sources. I'd say if his stools are firm that would suggest more that he's having trouble with carbs feeding yeast as opposed to the protein in the food. If the protein source were giving him issues, you might suspect he'd have loose stools as well, because it would irritate the lining of his digestive tract.

Good luck, and keep up updated!
Planning to start the Yeast Starvation Diet as soon as the vitamins arrive, they recommend 3-6 months which should give me enough time to research what to do next! Thank you for posting, what your saying about carbs feeding the yeast makes sense to me!
02-08-2014 02:24 PM
_Zero_ I'd second the suggestion for trying pre-prepared raw, or suggest you try a very low-carb food, like Wysong Epigen, Evo, or a canned food. Yeast feeds on carbohydrates. These grain-free foods (e.g. Wellness Core, Natural Balance LID) are all very high in carbs-- they replace the grains with very starchy foods like peas and potatoes. Since the dog's system is loaded with carbs, that provides fodder for yeast to grow. Hence the itching and the ear infection.

I don't necessarily think the feeding trial with a novel protein source is a bad idea, but I'd hesitate to go down that road unless you're absolutely sure it's the *protein* Jack is responding to and not the other ingredients in the food.

Evo has some balanced 95% meat canned foods. Evanger's also has some balanced canned foods that are 90% meat or greater (e.g. several varieties of their Super Premium line). Evo kibble is low carb and Wyson Epigen is starch-free, and advertises itself as the lowest carb dog kibble on the market. Orijen's varieties are also relatively low carb. Most of the pre-prepared raw varieties will also be much lower in carbs than kibbles, and should you choose to be adventurous, going prey-model raw will eliminate all of the carbs from his diet entirely.

Here is a VERY simple raw dog food recipe that is supposed to starve out yeast:

Yeast Starvation Dog Food Recipe - Homemade Dog Food

It should be relatively inexpensive to try.

It might be worth looking into a high carb load as the source of your pup's yeast issues before going down the "food allergy" route. Very few dogs have true allergies to food, although they can develop intolerance to protein sources. I'd say if his stools are firm that would suggest more that he's having trouble with carbs feeding yeast as opposed to the protein in the food. If the protein source were giving him issues, you might suspect he'd have loose stools as well, because it would irritate the lining of his digestive tract.

Good luck, and keep up updated!
02-08-2014 09:32 AM
sehrgutcsg Beet pulp in dry-food causes loose stools. I would steer clear of any treats imported from China. The "ear" the doctor must treat and cure...
02-08-2014 07:46 AM
Momto2GSDs Why not try a commercially prepared raw diet?
A raw diet is usually very successful at controlling yeast.

Northwest Naturals:
  • USDA Inspected Raw Materials
  • 100% Grain Free
  • Northwest Naturals™ is manufactured in a quality controlled USDA human food inspected facility.
  • Northwest Naturals™ is a food that is developed and manufactured by a team that has 15 years of experience in raw natural pet-food manufacturing, and backed by a 53 year old meat processing company.
  • Northwest Naturals Inc.™ uses fresh ground bone for an organic calcium source.
  • Northwest Naturals™ uses a unique flash freezing to preserve the integrity of the nutrients.
  • Northwest Naturals™ is convenient and easy to use.
  • Northwest Naturals™ offers unsurpassed quality and 100% customer satisfaction guarantees.
All Northwest Naturals Diets are complete, balanced and formulated to meet the nutritional levels established and recommended by the AAFCO Food Nutrient Profiles For All Life Stages.
http://cms.nw-naturals.net/raw/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=106&I temid=62

OR

Bravo Balance Raw Diet, the very best, nutritionally complete fresh frozen raw food diet. Bravo! Balance meets AAFCO standards for 100% complete and balanced nutrition for all life stages of a dog or cat. Available in Chicken, Turkey and Beef formulas in two product formats - 4 oz full size burgers and bulk in tubes (chubs) in two and five pound sizes. Bravo! Balance

OR

Prepare you own by using fresh, raw, ground meat (beef, turkey, chicken) from you local market (you can get reasonably priced meat at Sams' or Costco) and adding the following to insure the diet is balanced.

Steve Browns Homemade Dinner Mix to your own ground meat (beef, turkey, chicken). See Spot Live Longer™ Homemade Dinner Mixes | Product Catalog
Info: Healthy Dog Food Dinner Mixes

"When mixed according to directions, See Spot Live Longer™ Homemade Dinner Mixes are formulated to meet the nutritional levels established by the AAFCO Dog Food Nutrient Profiles for adults and for all life stages."

See Spot Live Longer™ Homemade Dinner Mixes blended with fresh lean meats (lightly cooked or raw) make the most nutritious and delicious meals you can serve your dogs.
It's easy. Just add 2 tablespoons (4 for puppies) of our special mix to one pound of fresh beef, chicken, turkey, or lamb, and add a can of sardines or fish oils weekly.
When mixed according to directions, See Spot Live Longer™ Homemade Dinner Mixes are formulated to meet the nutritional levels established by the AAFCO Dog Food Nutrient Profiles for adults and for all life stages.
A typical 35-pound dog will need one bag per month.

Ingredients: dried spinach, ground flax seed, dicalcium phosphate, oyster shell powder, dried spirulina algae, psyllium husk powder, organic dried kelp, sea salt, inulin, chelated minerals (iron, zinc, manganese and copper amino acid chelates), vitamin E, choline chloride, d-calcium pantothenate, vitamin D3, vitamin B12.

Also, if you would be interested in seeking out a Registered Holistic Vet, I can post a list for NJ. Holistic vet's treat the dog to "balance" the whole system, not just work on one issue the dog has.

Hope you find something that works for your Fur Baby!

Moms
02-08-2014 06:01 AM
Anastasia
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaniFani View Post
Have you heard of Nutrisource? It's a really good kibble. I've seen dogs with some pretty touchy stomachs and/or bad allergies do really really well on it. No fillers, all in-country made, etc....I'd recommend it highly. I am NOT trying to bash vets, but a lot of vets know very little about nutrition/diet. Allergies and diets can be exhausting and difficult to deal with. The only reason I recommend Nutrisource is because I've seen it work on some pretty messed up dogs (digestive wise). I would go on a high quality kibble, and cut out allll snacks (bully sticks, bones, etc) until you get solid stool. Then introduce things one thing at a time. Although, your vet (who knows history and your dog) might be better than internet folks. Good luck!
Thank you I will check it out!

Quote:
Originally Posted by llombardo View Post
I don't have any ideas about the ear infections, but I have come to the conclusion that the loose stools in my house are due to over feeding. I've gotten much stricter with measuring food and we have less poop and its firm poop. I've eased up on treats. They get one treat a day and its got pumpkin and coconut in it. I can't tell you how many times I've gone through the loose stool thing, switching foods and giving them medication. Now I'm thinking it was all my fault
I have to say this is the one thing I'm sure it isn't! The stool issue has been resolved but Jack is one of those rare dogs that regulates his own weight, he simply won't over eat. Crazy but true!
02-07-2014 09:31 PM
Anastasia
Quote:
Originally Posted by Springbrz View Post
The history you give sounds like your guy has food sensitivities. I would suggest a couple of things:

1. Switch to a Limited ingredient food (LID) that only has one protein and one carb. Choose a novel protein your dog has never had (buffalo, lamb, bison). I like Nature's Variety Instinct but there are others.

2. If you can afford the expense I would do Dr. Dodds Nutriscan food sensitivity test.
NutriScan Food Sensitivity and Intolerance Test for Cats and Dogs. It's about $300 but it gets good reviews. I myself am saving to afford it for my pup.

3. You can do an elimination diet on our own. Seems like you already started down that path. It does a bit of time to see results.

4. Make a 50/50 mix of water and Organic Apple cider vinegar. Wet a cotton make pad with the solution and gently wipe the inside the ear as deep as you can go without loosing the pad or hurting the ear. Do this 3 times a day. Be sure to dry the inside the ear after cleaning.

As for not agreeing with your vet. You wouldn't be the first, won't be the last. You could get a second opinion from another vet. Is there an holistic vet in your area?

Ultimately, it's up to you to use your best judgment.
Thank you for the link. I really like the idea of the test, it makes sense to me to test then to actually eliminate one by one.
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