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02-05-2014 02:55 PM
bill Something I forgot ! How many have had a nerve pinch through a hidden sleeve? I have and it will numb your arm! Bill
02-05-2014 02:42 PM
my boy diesel
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Originally Posted by Baillif View Post
Right if you want a dog to alert you a nervy dog of any breed that can bark will do.
only nervy dogs will bark at
intruders??
02-05-2014 01:22 PM
Djstorm100 Guys I'm flattered to have such a warm welcome! LOL!
02-05-2014 10:38 AM
Baillif Yeah the human nervous system is largely geared towards long term survival. It will shut down motor functions to a damaged limb in order to prevent further injury. If you ever want to test it hold onto an object and have a friend try to take it from you. Then have him smack your arm with a book or something. It doesn't have to be that hard but harder the more pronounced the effect. Then have him attempt to take it again. Will be way easier for them to strip it from you. You might not be able to hold onto the object from just the hit.

A bite on the hand or wrist that wasn't hard enough to leave a mark or bruise can shut that hand down for a few seconds. A major bite on the forearm or wrist and you can forget using it again during the struggle. Its why dogs should be trained to go for legs. A good leg bite and the bad guy loses the option of escape.
02-05-2014 10:15 AM
hunterisgreat
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I have taken and seen some hand bites. It's no longer a weapon after the bite. I know after just a strong pressure bite, I'm lucky to have any gross motor skills left. Usually it's pretty dead. I'm definitely not going to operate a pistol.

David Winners
True story!
02-05-2014 10:14 AM
David Winners
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Interesting scenario that made me rethink this. Dog bites gun or knife hand bad guy starts punching dog in head with the other hand thus it becomes a weapon. Dog rebites on the punching arm thus freeing the true weapon hand. Anecdotal story I heard from a K9 handler or so he said..lol.
I have taken and seen some hand bites. It's no longer a weapon after the bite. I know after just a strong pressure bite, I'm lucky to have any gross motor skills left. Usually it's pretty dead. I'm definitely not going to operate a pistol.

David Winners
02-05-2014 09:53 AM
Blitzkrieg1
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I'm more of a rebite on a weapon hand kind of guy. Reason being with a bone crushing hit on one body part if it is good they lose use of it. If they are hitting the dog the dog lets go and takes the limb being used to hurt it and disables another limb. If you've ever been bit even accidentally for hooking a tug and had your whole hand or arm go numb on you as your nervous system shuts the "power" down to prevent further injury you can guess why. I prefer a dog to go for legs first, but if someone's leading with a weapon hand it's a good thing most dogs go for the first thing available. After a leg hit no matter what happens at least you know you're faster than the other guy.

As mentioned before either way usually one bite is going to end it and they're gonna scream for their mothers wishing the encounter would stop.
Interesting scenario that made me rethink this. Dog bites gun or knife hand bad guy starts punching dog in head with the other hand thus it becomes a weapon. Dog rebites on the punching arm thus freeing the true weapon hand. Anecdotal story I heard from a K9 handler or so he said..lol.
02-05-2014 09:18 AM
hunterisgreat
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Well, if you think about it the dog is a massive sink for time and responsibility. You essentially have a dog that is trained to go against normal canine behavior and see humans as potential threats AND act aggressively on that threat. Normal behavior should be curious/wary and warn the pack/family of the threat. Living with an animal of that nature craters normal social behavior in both the human and canine aspects. A responsible person cannot ethically allow such a dog contact with anyone aside from the protectees, as an 80 pound GSD can really make a mess of a person.

Protection dogs, real ones at least, are a huge liability with the added kicker of that liability also being being (likely) a very valued family member. I know I would not want my dog attacking someone with the possibility of my dog being hurt/killed in the encounter. Even if the attack drove away the threat the aftermath of the attack would most certainly mean the end of the dog(euth'ed).
Training to go against natural behavior? When I got a protection dog, and when I get another, I'm looking for a dog that naturally see a human as a potential threat will readily show aggression/posturing behaviors at them.

Real protection dogs, bred and trained properly, are not a liability at all. Real protection dogs must be out in public with the handler 24/7 and thus *must* be safer to be around than your average pet dog.
02-05-2014 09:13 AM
Baillif Yeah i still remember that video from europe where the dog was sent on some guy with an axe. Dog dodges the axe and gets on the bite and was quickly followed by his handler swinging for the fences with a baton to the suspects head.
02-05-2014 08:29 AM
David Winners Plus, after the first one, they get to deal with the handler too.

David Winners
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