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02-06-2014 02:59 PM
blackshep Just another thought...is it possible that a nocturnal animal has moved into your neighbourhood and is roaming outside your house at night?
02-06-2014 01:53 PM
Chris Wild It sounds like she is not getting enough exercise and mental stimulation during the day. You said you "did training" which implies you no longer do that. You may not need to go to classes again, though you certainly can, but at the very least spend a few minutes a couple times a day brushing up the training that she already knows. GSDs are high energy, intelligent dogs with strong work ethic and that means that they need training and mental stimulation beyond just an 8 week class. It needs to become a regular part of their lives.

You also mentioned that when she barked you would cuddle and pet her to calm her down. This was very likely actually reinforcing and rewarding her barking. In her mind barking = positive attention from the people. Instead, you need to encourage and reward quiet behavior and ignore unwanted behavior like barking.

And make sure she is getting enough mental and physical exercise during waking hours.
02-06-2014 12:36 PM
Eiros If it helps, we got our large crate used (and cheap!) off Craigslist... our pup loves it and seems more restless if we don't let him use it. I'd put the crate in your room and see if that helps calm her down. A lot of pups seem to get a sense of security from a crate, so I'd give it a try.

Rewarding her with pets and cuddles certainly hasn't helped... dogs are dogs and not people. A pet isn't "calming", it's a reward for doing a good job, so I'd stop this behavior right away.

Teaching "leave it" has helped curbed barking in our pup. Some GSDs can be very vocal, but it's your job to tell them when it's not their job (it's your job) to deal with a situation. Teaching any sort of command will help you communicate with your dog.

Obviously, rule out any medical issues, etc. first! Good luck!
02-06-2014 10:50 AM
gsdPerseus I also wanted to say that the cheaper crates off eBay aren't made for dogs that hate crates- they won't stop an escape, but if your dog liked sleeping in her crate, and having it near you at night should work fine.
02-06-2014 10:45 AM
gsdPerseus I wanted to put my 2 cents in since I have a barker, and can relate to what you're going through.
I have to say it sounds like you are rewarding her for barking at night. You said you have walked her at 1am, and that you pet to sooth her. This is simply telling her she's being a good girl- she has no idea you disapprove of her barking at night.
You also said she grew out of her crate- I would go back to crating her, being put in the wash room is probably causing the anxiety and barking. You can buy a large crate, 42" or 48" off eBay for around $50 with free shipping. From experience, it is definitely worth it. Put it beside your bed, near where you sleep, I'd say within arms reach.
If she is barking while you are awake and moving at night, I would leash her and keep her in the same room as you. You'll be able to tell whats triggering her easier, and that will help you stop it as well. If you put her up before you go to bed, which i'd imagine would be seperation anxiety, I would try putting her in the crate with chew toys(try bully sticks if you haven't already- walmart even sells 2 packs)
or consider keeping her with you until you go to sleep.

Sorry this is so long, but I wanted to mention that these things have stopped my dog from barking, and he loves to bark- it's his favorite way of expressing himself and has been encouraged to bark since puppyhood(he loves singing along to a harmonica!).
He's also strong willed, and takes stronger corrections than some dogs need. We taught him "hush", using a strong, not loud, but harsh tone. We would have to reinforce that with keeping a leash on him, and a sharp tug(aka leash pop) on the leash to snap him out of it when he wanted to bark when it wasn't approved of.
For example, when we moved the first time it stressed him out, we tried letting him sleep in the bathroom but he would bark and cry, so we put him in our room, door shut, and on a loose leash. We had a roommate who would noisly open the fridge and set our boy off, so we had to correct him a few times over a few days before he relaxed. This was when he first learned hush, since we never had a problem with him barking before. It did work though, and i always check to see why he's barking before I tell him to hush. It helps to find out whats setting them off.

Hope this gives you some ideas, every dog is different- but I do think you need to stop rewarding the barking at night, and get her crate routine back.
02-04-2014 12:57 AM
SallyRoseMom
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Ageed. One night Brutus kept barking and barking-we had no idea what his deal was. In the morning we could see tire tracks right across our yard-a car had slid off the road and nearly hit our house. We hadn't heard a thing…..but Brutus had. Always a good idea to investigate if something is going on outside that the dog hears, and you can't.
It could be anything, but nothing we can see; I have asked my neighbor they have surveillance cameras and according to him there is nothing but I did notice they let their little dog out to use the restroom and she likes to antagonize my dog but I know that is not an excuse for excessive barking... We did go out and buy her a new crate and my daughter has it right next to her bed so we are hoping this will help
02-03-2014 10:52 PM
Germanshepherdlova
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Has something changed in the neighborhood? Is there a Peeping Tom out there? I mean, a dog that hasn't been a problem for 2 years and is suddenly doing a LOT of barking only at night, makes me wonder what is going on. Could be medical, I suppose. Not sure what though. Could be that the neighbors are in and out all night long? Maybe a crack house or meth house, and people going through your yard to get to it?

Are we absolutely sure that the girl doesn't have a legitimate reason for barking if she is inside?
Ageed. One night Brutus kept barking and barking-we had no idea what his deal was. In the morning we could see tire tracks right across our yard-a car had slid off the road and nearly hit our house. We hadn't heard a thing…..but Brutus had. Always a good idea to investigate if something is going on outside that the dog hears, and you can't.
02-03-2014 10:32 PM
SallyRoseMom
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I'm with Galathiel, being proactive during day light to wear that dog out is MUCH better then punishing and reactive at night. There are a million things you (and the rest of us) all do when we decide to add an intelligent and energy filled GSD into our lives.

EXERCISE! Real off leash hours every other day. HIking. Swimming. Biking. Meet ups with other dogs.

TRAINING! Dog classes. Paying the money and taking the time to attend and do 'homework'. ANY kind of classes, flyball, agility, rally, tracking, clicker......

ENGAGEMENT! How many dozens of tricks have you taught up to this point?

Good info on ---> Welcome to the GSD/FAQ's for the first time owner - German Shepherd Dog Forums specially ---> http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...s-puppies.html

Even going back to putting the crate beside your bed at night will get you more in the game cause that's going to make you fix the issue So you can get those purple squirrels full of frozen .... Stuffing Kong toys, Squirrel Dudes and other Great chew toys - YouTube

we did training but im willing to go back anything so we can sleep and keep humane society away
02-03-2014 10:30 PM
SallyRoseMom
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first I wouldn't leave a muzzle like that on a dog all nite , what if she had to vomit, or couldn't pant to cool down?

What about a bark collar? How about a chewy bone to get keep her occupied?

Is she crated? If so or not, where does she stay at nite? In your room? isolated?

she was crated but she grew out of it. we don't leave the muzzle on her just because I know I wouldn't want something over my mouth all night. im going to have to look into a bark collar...she is sleeping in our washroom because she has now decided it is play time in the middle of the night and pulls my daughter off her bed
02-03-2014 10:26 PM
SallyRoseMom
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If this is a new behavior after two years, maybe there is a medical issue. Have her surroundings or sleeping arrangements changed? What are your daughter and you doing that helps calm her down?

Welcome to the forums.


thanks for the welcome...she goes to the vet regularly for check ups so she is in good health. to calm her down we pet her and cuddle her and sit with her, my daughter sings her lullabies (no clue if that works but it seems to sooth her) we moved from our old house back in June and she is just now starting to bark all night
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