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02-14-2014 05:04 PM
lovemytb
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I've read it can be dangerous in horses but couldn't really find much info on dogs and how bad it may or may not be, he certainly doesn't seem to notice.
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I am a horse owner and have been around horses my entire life. I can tell you that EPM comes from opossum urine that gets on the stored hay. Most opossum's are infected with this virus and when they pee on horses food in this case would be hay and once the horse eats enough of infected hay it gets sick. EPM is very bad for a horse but can be curable if caught in time. I have a friend who's horse got it and its very bad disease for a horse to go through. I had no idea that dogs can get the same thing.
02-01-2014 08:00 PM
mspiker03 Hope he feels better soon!!!


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02-01-2014 07:40 PM
Carriesue
Sarcocystis from raw meat

My golden is at the vet today, he's been throwing up every day and can't really keep food down so I assume he'll get a fecal done as well. I live in suburbia so access to carcasses is very limited, I don't ever recall seeing him get into anything on our hikes but he is offleash so there is a chance he could of snatched something without me noticing.... On one of our hikes in December my golden found a bone that he proudly presented to us, we took it away from him immediately though. Recently though we did see one giant coyote and the trail has been littered with coyote poop(we even saw a deer carcass but we did not let them go near it). But like I said for now I'm doing dehydrated raw and will keep testing him... If he gets it again then I'll know 100% sure this time that it didn't come from something I gave him.

But thanks for all the info, it's probably not going to help my case right now lol but I keep this info handy in case it happens again.

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02-01-2014 07:04 PM
lhczth I also read that it can be contracted from eating dead birds. Since the OP had only given some burger to her dog it is most like it came from other sources.
02-01-2014 04:46 PM
gsdsar
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Wow, wasn't trying to be snarky and I did read your post. I just responded at one point referencing some articles and I was just wanted to post where I got my info from. Next time I wont chime in with the referencing articles. Sorry...
Nope. I am sorry. Apparently I need to take a chill pill. Happens sometimes. LOL. Reference articles are cool.


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02-01-2014 04:41 PM
mspiker03
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I'm sorry. But did you ACTUALLY read my post?? I agreed with you. The post clearly states that the dogs we have seen were not on raw diets and had no access to carcasses. It was assumed that they ate feces of infective animals.

Please read a post first before rebutting.


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Wow, wasn't trying to be snarky and I did read your post. I just responded at one point referencing some articles and I was just wanted to post where I got my info from. Next time I wont chime in with the referencing articles. Sorry...
02-01-2014 04:30 PM
gsdsar
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So you don't think I am just making it up (although I am sure you don't)

DNR - Sarcocystosis

And while this next article from the CDC pertains to a different county, it does state that people can be infected by " food, water, or soil contaminated with infected animal feces"
Sarcocystosis in Malaysia - Watch - Level 1, Practice Usual Precautions - Travel Health Notices | Travelers' Health | CDC

My beef with *some* vets is that they are so quick to blame raw, without looking at other options. I do get that some dogs don't do well on raw - or can get sick, just like they can get sick from eating kibble. But, in this case, I found it odd that her two little dogs are seemingly fine (have not been tested) and they are being switched to raw. The two bigger dogs (who have been sick in some form, although one hasn't been tested yet(?)) were the only two to go hiking and swim in the nasty lake in January.

Carrie - And yes, I get the stubborn DH factor I am "lucky" that mine went through the whole "you need to biopsy Leyna's tongue" issue and realized that it was a complete joke.
I'm sorry. But did you ACTUALLY read my post?? I agreed with you. The post clearly states that the dogs we have seen were not on raw diets and had no access to carcasses. It was assumed that they ate feces of infective animals.

Please read a post first before rebutting.


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02-01-2014 04:15 PM
mspiker03
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I asked my Dr about getting it other ways. Her dog was one if the ones that we have seen. And she is anti Raw diet. So we know that's not how.

She does hike a lot. And it was possible that her dog ate feces of an infected animal. But they don't know. They know that horses are not out there eating Raw meat, but still they get it. They assume it's from eating feces on the ground they graze.




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So you don't think I am just making it up (although I am sure you don't)

DNR - Sarcocystosis

And while this next article from the CDC pertains to a different county, it does state that people can be infected by " food, water, or soil contaminated with infected animal feces"
Sarcocystosis in Malaysia - Watch - Level 1, Practice Usual Precautions - Travel Health Notices | Travelers' Health | CDC

My beef with *some* vets is that they are so quick to blame raw, without looking at other options. I do get that some dogs don't do well on raw - or can get sick, just like they can get sick from eating kibble. But, in this case, I found it odd that her two little dogs are seemingly fine (have not been tested) and they are being switched to raw. The two bigger dogs (who have been sick in some form, although one hasn't been tested yet(?)) were the only two to go hiking and swim in the nasty lake in January.

Carrie - And yes, I get the stubborn DH factor I am "lucky" that mine went through the whole "you need to biopsy Leyna's tongue" issue and realized that it was a complete joke.
02-01-2014 08:11 AM
gsdsar I asked my Dr about getting it other ways. Her dog was one if the ones that we have seen. And she is anti Raw diet. So we know that's not how.

She does hike a lot. And it was possible that her dog ate feces of an infected animal. But they don't know. They know that horses are not out there eating Raw meat, but still they get it. They assume it's from eating feces on the ground they graze.




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02-01-2014 07:33 AM
Courtney Did you feed raw deer meat without freezing first? - or any raw game before freezing first?
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