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01-29-2014 04:17 AM
Harry and Lola Love the car ride home pic

I'm not really keen either on dog parks unless you know the other people and dogs or the dogs there are stable not bullies.

Just a thought, imo it is not a good idea to walk into an off leash dog area with your dog on lead as being on lead can stop them from projecting appropriate behaviour, ie they may pull/lunge forward which may be seen as a challenge by other dogs which can create issues, far better to have your do off lead in the off lead area.

Good on your Lab for getting in between them and issuing a growl, sounds like he decided enough is enough and told them so.

I bet your GSD and Lab are just happy with each other and you only.
01-29-2014 03:14 AM
SummerGSDLover Thank you for your insights. I agree actually. My lab had fun and the other labs/retrievers there had fun but the huskys/pits/older GSDs/and akitas were very aloof and domineering. There was only 1 of each kf the latter breeds. It was mostly "happy social dogs". Thank you for the response. Everyone has brought up good points and given me something else to think about.

*-*Summer*-*
01-28-2014 05:48 PM
Muskeg Many dogs do great at a dog park. Most GSDs or dogs bred for strong "fight" and prey drive like malinois, dobies and rotties, don't feel like playing with strange dogs once they reach maturity. GSDs and malinois are not dog-park dogs. Some are, for sure, but not most.

It's like taking a grown man to a playground and expecting him to enjoy the play equipment with all the kids at the same level as they do. I train my dogs to be able to deal with strange dogs out in public. But I don't allow extended interactions. I want other dogs (non pack) to be background noise, part of the environment, not something to get excited about for any reason unless they are a posing obvious threat. My pack plays with each other and that is all they need for dog-dog play time. They'd be fine even with interaction with just me.

I have a fairly dominant female. Taking her to a dog park would serve to proof her training with distractions, but she would not enjoy herself, or play with other dogs except in a domineering way. She gets on fine with dogs she knows and her pack, and can handle a brief interaction on the trails, but no dog parks for us.

I think, these days, the trend for many breeds and mixes is that they are genetically forever stuck in puppy-mode. Neutering young pups encourages this as well. I see the huge uptick in --doodles as part of this trend. A doodle forever has a puppy-ish appearance and is basically bred to be big goofy pup its whole life.

Many dogs in our neighborhood, including the many doodles, remain big goofy pups. Great pets, easy and malleable. They enjoy the dog park. Dogs that forever act like puppies are not my thing, but they certainly are easy.

In sum, besides all the other issues you may run into at a dog park with a social, friendly dog, I think the blanket rule is that strong breeds, like the GSD do not belong there once they are adults- if ever. On top of that, I don't think a dog park is a place for intact animals- male or female- for many different reasons. All just my observations and experience.
01-28-2014 05:25 PM
trcy
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I can tell you thats not true and very close minded of your trainer. Its like saying all people that drive trucks are obnoxious. I know dog parks have a bad rap here and some people jump on the bandwagon or probably dont admit they take their dogs to the dog park. If you dont want to take your dogs to the dog park then dont, thats up to you and maybe in some places people shouldnt because their dog parks are full of irresponsible people.
But in my opinion theres been so many people I meet there that are in Rally, Agility and Freestyling. I have learned so much from them about all these dog sports that I havent had to ask on here. Infact one of the Rally-O classes im now taking was suggested to me by a german shepherd rescue volunteer that takes both of her dogs to the dog park and her boys are in all kind of sports.
I don't think it's closed minded. When she said it I knew she was not talking about all dog park across the USA. She's talking about the ones she has experience with. My experiences there have not been great. I will not go there anymore. 98% of the people who were their freed their dog from the leash and then sat at the picnic table socializing with the other owners ignoring their dogs. When the fights broke out they had no clue on what to do. A lot of yelling and screaming....finally they managed to pullt he dogs apart. It's not an environment I want a part of.

We did go to a dog park near Laguna and it was fine. No issues with the dogs there. We have also been to Huntington dog beach a few times. We did not have any issues there either, but people were watching their dogs.

We go to dog club once a week. All the dog are under control at all times. A different environment.
01-28-2014 05:20 PM
trcy long lines are great. I go to a park that's a little further away, but not a dedicated dog park. We practice there when he's up to it. My poor pup has pano, so we have been doing a lot of resting lately.
01-28-2014 04:58 PM
SummerGSDLover
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Yep a long line is your friend! With a long line, you can work on recall just about anywhere. You don't need to worry about distractions until he can be recalled. One step at a time.
Okay. Thank you. When will I know when he's ready for distractions during recall? When he's 100% for a few days, weeks, months?

*-*Summer*-*
01-28-2014 04:56 PM
SummerGSDLover I didn't think I was setting him up to fail. Like I said, his recall is excellent for a pup his age (I thought). I feel really bad now. I wasn't trying to set him up to fail. I was just trying to see how he'd do in another setting that was more chaotic. I thought 90% (9 times out of 10) for recall was very good. He was praised extensively and with treats every couple of times. My trainer said that I have a really good intuition when it comes to my puppy and while she's been helping me and Yogi with stuff always praises me for knowing what to do even though I've never done it before. Apparently I really don't know what Im doing. Guess I should get a long line.

*-*Summer*-*
01-28-2014 04:48 PM
Msmaria
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One of the trainers I used said dog parks are how lazy owners exercise their dogs. They just unleash them and ignore them until it's time to leave. That is pretty much what I saw when I went to a dog park. After I saw a few fights break out when I was outside the fenced in area observing I never went back.

I can tell you thats not true and very close minded of your trainer. Its like saying all people that drive trucks are obnoxious. I know dog parks have a bad rap here and some people jump on the bandwagon or probably dont admit they take their dogs to the dog park. If you dont want to take your dogs to the dog park then dont, thats up to you and maybe in some places people shouldnt because their dog parks are full of irresponsible people.
But in my opinion theres been so many people I meet there that are in Rally, Agility and Freestyling. I have learned so much from them about all these dog sports that I havent had to ask on here. Infact one of the Rally-O classes im now taking was suggested to me by a german shepherd rescue volunteer that takes both of her dogs to the dog park and her boys are in all kind of sports.
01-28-2014 04:42 PM
Chip18 Yep a long line is your friend! With a long line, you can work on recall just about anywhere. You don't need to worry about distractions until he can be recalled. One step at a time.
01-28-2014 04:24 PM
trcy One of the trainers I used said dog parks are how lazy owners exercise their dogs. They just unleash them and ignore them until it's time to leave. That is pretty much what I saw when I went to a dog park. After I saw a few fights break out when I was outside the fenced in area observing I never went back.
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