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|01-26-2014 03:03 AM|
here is what I did
First a disclaimer. I am not a professional trainer but think I have a decent understanding of behavior. Feel free to disagree as I am constantly in learning mode.
Story 1: There is a male Great Pyrenese in our our neighborhood. I never trusted this dog or his owner. He was always glaring at my GSD Maddie just spoiling to make trouble. His owner is an idiot and insists on taking him and her other 2 Great Pyrenese dogs to the local dog park off leash. She cannot recall or control any of those dogs let alone 3 together. They are the reason I don't go there anymore.
Anyhow, I was walking Maddie on leash and he was loose--several blocks from his house by the way. I spotted him coming down the hill about 20 feet away. His head was down, body rigid, tail straight out, not growling and stalking towards us slowly. All signs that he meant business. There was no way this A hole of a dog was going to hurt my dog. I yelled "NO [name of dog]! GO HOME! in my deepest most commanding voice. He ignored me, laser focussed on Maddie and continuing his stalking. I had no stick, spray or other weapon. I am now in front of Maddie. As he lunges for my dog I jam my knee right into his nose really hard. The timing was perfect and I connected with his nose very well. He yelps, finally looks at me and starts to turn away giving me a shocked "what the heck just happened to me look". I see the opening, glare at him, yell again while taking a step towards him. His fight was gone and he walked away looking bewildered.
Story 2: Was walking Maddie at the local park not long after we rescued her (Story 2 happened long before Story 1). She was off leash and i struck up a conversation with another dog owner. She had two dogs--a small emergency backup dog that was making nice with Maddie and her main dog who was laying down about 30 feet away. I got distracted and didn't notice that Maddie had made eye contact with the main dog (a 125lb shepherd mix).
Main dog doesn't care for the look from Maddie and gets up. His silent angry glare, stiff body posture, etc spelled big trouble as he stalked towards Maddie. Oh no. Not good--very, very not good. Before I could even react he breaks into a run and launches at Maddie. He bites her back, slams her to the ground, rolls her over, and starts biting her soft belly below the ribcage. He wants to kill my dog!! The only sound was Maddie screaming--he never barked or growled once. I get behind this bruiser of a dog, grab his tail and pull up and away getting him off Maddie. I start swinging him around by the base of his tail keeping his back legs off the ground so he cannot get to me. Fortunately, his owner finally steps in and tackles him. I then rush my dog to the vet to get her stitched up. She had a giant hole in her belly and a nasty bite on her back that took a while to heal.
I screwed up big time in several ways in Story 2 and my dog paid for it. I still feel guilty about it. I should not have had her off leash with an unknown dog around like that. She had great recall and was super obedient but that wasn't enough for a situation like that. I should have been paying more attention so I could redirect Maddie immediately so as to not piss off the main dog.
I also could have easily paid for it too but was determined to save my dog from being killed. I am not sure what I would have done if the owner had not tackled her dog.
Thanks for listening. Again, feedback invited as there are people way more knowledgeable than me on here. I just read the Leerberg article and it seems like very good advice.
|01-26-2014 01:14 AM|
I'd call the police and animal control. Letting a dog attack is a police matter. If your dog took a submissive posture BEFORE the attack this dog is an even bigger liability and will attack again IMO.
Kia 1/2014- now
|01-26-2014 12:36 AM|
Originally Posted by Chip18 View Post
The messed up part is that we saw the owner on the porch, and when they saw us, they went inside. My dad suggested calling the authorities, but we decided that we would wait and see if it happened a second time, this time, without Varick.
|01-25-2014 01:46 PM|
Originally Posted by HarleyTheGSD View Post
|01-25-2014 01:39 PM|
We’re not talking about going to a dog park and randomly spraying dogs in the face!
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|01-25-2014 11:57 AM|
|Stosh||Get a cattle paddle at the feed store. It's plastic, about 5 ft long, shaped like an oar and has a rattle inside. You can safely put a block between another dog and yours and it won't hurt either of them. You can hold it over your head and rattle it and that will scare most dogs away. We use them when we first start herding training to keep the dogs off the sheep. Very effective way to protect your dog- which as CHIP18 says, is your job. Your dog will definitely notice|
|01-25-2014 11:42 AM|
This is my fear.
We have a lot of off-leash dogs around here. When I walk Harley, the dogs usually walk right up to us, but Harley is very submissive and never payed much attention to the dogs. It's Varick I'm worried about. Around the middle of last year, a pit bull walked right up to us (did NOT look friendly), and my boyfriend took a huge risk and held the dog back by the collar. Luckily, Varick isn't very reactive, he just gave a few deep growls. No lunging or barking. I'm going to start bringing pepper spray on walks from now on.
Sorry that this happened, good luck!
|01-25-2014 10:09 AM|
Originally Posted by Chip18 View Post
I take her to walk other places as much as I can but this is not feasible to do before work.
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|01-25-2014 02:45 AM|
You should read this thread if you haven’t already.
Your job is to protect your dog. A walking stick, mace or pepper spray, stand in front of your dog and scream at the other dog. Jumpiing from a car is a new one to me ( my dogs don't bolt of cars, homes, garages etc) but yeah it happens.
If you know dogs are running lose, then you need a plan of action, either to defend your dog or load her in the car and go some place safe to walk, No plan at all isn’t much of a plan; if you "know" loose dogs are around. Granted "this" dog wasn’t around as it were but had you had a plan it would have been better for your dog.
|01-25-2014 02:16 AM|
|Harry and Lola||It is scary and it happens so quickly. Noise is good with dog fights, silence is not, when dogs are silent and fighting there is usually always contact made, I always remember that saying 'beware of a silent dog'.|
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