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04-02-2014 01:10 PM
carmspack this little female pup has arrived in Ontario.
She crossed the continent from Oregon to Toronto by air , was picked up and had a 3 hour car ride to the Kawarthas , there she had another leg to her journey , and that was to cross the frozen ice of Lake Joe , pitch dark of night tucked into a a zipped back pack worn on the front , zooming home on a skidoo .

I got the call moments ago. This pup , as expected is absolutely fearless. She entered the new home at 4:45 a.m. found some threads on the carpet and started pulling on them --- found the wrought iron fire poker , knocked it over and then proceeded to pick it up and parade around. She never skipped a beat - She "owned" the house the moment she walked in. So now that the time difference is catching up with the pup and she is resting , so is her new owner.

I'll see them tomorrow for some "tests" in the barn.

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adult black female is Carmspack Kameshia retired working dog entering her 12 year shortly

sable pup is a 5 week old repeat on "Nicholas" pedigree
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04-02-2014 12:11 PM
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life coming at you --

while taking a walk through a downtown residential area , head toward the main street (Queen just east of Broadview) and "step into" a film crew taping an elephant walking along ? could never have planned for this .

another totally unexpected situation , take a bike path expecting peace and quiet and then find out that there is a civil war re-enactment on the field above you ?
If come across Gen. Robert E Lee send him home! :
04-02-2014 11:13 AM
carmspack life coming at you --

while taking a walk through a downtown residential area , head toward the main street (Queen just east of Broadview) and "step into" a film crew taping an elephant walking along ? could never have planned for this .

another totally unexpected situation , take a bike path expecting peace and quiet and then find out that there is a civil war re-enactment on the field above you ?
04-02-2014 10:50 AM
carmspack
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My dog looks to me. He wasn't "socialized" to be around Backhoes but had no problem walking by one in operation on a walk in the city. Uh, oh yeah and he's never been in a city before either!

and that is exactly what I meant when I said
"he came into the world ..... and then the world came at him ."
you simply can not plan for everything that you may encounter . Life is full of surprises .

I do like the format set out by Leerburg .

The most important part of socialization is for the dog to fully understand where and what and to whom he belongs. Especially true for GSD which are "loyal" . They were not, are not , meant to be dogs that have their heart on their sleeves . They are to be indifferent to strangers. Not hostile , not seeking friendship.

Don't expect to bring home the shy and retiring animal and take him out to see the world , meet those "100 people" , and turn into a robust outgoing dog.

What you will be able to see is the dogs initial response and time required , if any, for recovery.
Seeing strapping first responders at the fire hall and being "okay" does not in any way indicate that the dog will be "okay" in an emergency with chaos and highly charged emotional situations.
A GSD should be able to adapt and cope with rapidly changing situations . That has to be a genetic consideration.
04-01-2014 04:36 PM
Diesel7602
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Read this, it's what I did with my "people aggressive" GSD and he has no issues! And it's how I train all my future dogs.
http://leerburg.com/whopetspuppy.htm
Thanks for the post. I read it. It's good to see both points of view. Me personally, want a well manor people dog, but protect us if needed.=)

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04-01-2014 12:50 AM
Chip18
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http://avsabonline.org/uploads/posit...ion1-25-13.pdf read this. I think it is important for the early socialization.

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Read this, it's what I did with my "people aggressive" GSD and he has no issues! And it's how I train all my future dogs.
http://leerburg.com/whopetspuppy.htm
04-01-2014 12:47 AM
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Glad I happened to read this, thank you for the advice. That would be too terrible if a dog was so frightened that it couldn't be rescued.
My dog looks to me. He wasn't "socialized" to be around Backhoes but had no problem walking by one in operation on a walk in the city. Uh, oh yeah and he's never been in a city before either!
03-31-2014 09:48 PM
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So should I not let people pet and play with my pup. In starting puppy kindergarten Wednesday and the class is for an hour and the first 20 mins we just let the puppies and people play with one another. Should I pass on this training school. Its a 7 week class
http://avsabonline.org/uploads/posit...ion1-25-13.pdf read this. I think it is important for the early socialization.

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03-31-2014 08:38 PM
shepherdmom I think it depends on the dog. If your dog is enjoying it let him play. If he is scared or unhappy get him the heck out of there. My puppy is socialized fine with other dogs, he understands doggie language. It's humans that scare him so I'm trying to socialize him with only one or two people at a time.
03-31-2014 08:31 PM
DutchKarin Airman,

I am not a fan of the free puppy play. My dutch shepherd was the biggest, most powerful and maniacal puppy. Free play was a disaster, more because everyone else was very uncomfortable with how hard Tygo played. I dropped out of puppy kindergarten when everyone else started grabbing my dog to get him off of theirs and the instructor did nothing. Bad experience for me and not healthy for Tygo.
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