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02-06-2014 03:50 PM
diane0905 Just thought I'd drop in to give y'all a brief update.

My husband said he saw the GSD the other day when walking Luke and although he didn't pass her himself with our dog, he did see a very rambunctious beautiful white lab run up the GSD and try to hump her and the GSD didn't do anything but try to get away from the overzealous lab. The lab is a big boy (probably 100lbs or so) and is off leash sometimes. He also does the same to our dog, Luke, but I just tell him no and get him off Luke's backside. Other than that, he's friendly. He's a young (two maybe) and intact lab.

Anyway, it was good to know the GSD wasn't ugly in that situation because it's no fun to have an off leash dog charging your dog while it's on a leash.

Today my husband and I were walking Luke and we saw the GSD's owner out in her yard. She loves Luke and is a very friendly lady, so we stood and talked to her for a while. She brought up the fact her dog has been really difficult on the leash as far as pulling them all over the place, so she had bought one of the leashes which goes across the nose. I believe they're called a Gentle Leader. She was asking me about Luke's harness, which is how the subject came up.

I was glad she brought it up because it gave me the opportunity to tell her I hadn't let Luke and her dog meet yet because her dog was pulling and barking and I didn't know how her GSD felt about other dogs. She told me her GSD loves other dogs -- especially male, blonde beautiful ones like Luke. She said she had been taking her GSD to play dates to keep her socialized.

So, all that was good to find out and perhaps when I see her out with her dog the two dogs can meet.

Perhaps as someone mentioned earlier, the GSD is just being leash reactive.

Anyway -- just thought I'd share. Hopefully, if the GSD is able to get away from the walker lady who is having trouble controlling her then it won't be a dog fight issue. Also, I hope the new leash works for them. I have never tried a Gentle Leader. Luke doesn't care for a collar around his neck, but is perfectly fine on a harness and doesn't pull.

Thanks for all the advice! If they end up becoming fast friends I'll let y'all know.
01-24-2014 11:00 PM
Chip18
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Originally Posted by Muskeg View Post
I think from the sounds of it the owner is doing the right thing by her dog, and the GSD is not at fault for lacking training or being walked by someone too weak to handle her. The dog should not be dragging the walker across the street- I see that as something worth talking to the owner about. Let her know the female dog walker is incompetent, and she should find a better one. Fair on all fronts, and not too nosy. I would be concerned if a dog was routinely dragging a walker toward me and my dog. I think it is OK to ask the neighbor to make sure this doesn't happen. But I think the owner loves her dog and is doing everything she can do provide her with proper exercise and care.
01-24-2014 10:59 PM
JackandMattie
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It was the dog walker who said this.
Not the dog's owner.

I would talk to the neighbor about having hired the wrong person to walk the dog. This person could lose control of the dog, the dog could go after somebody, and it will be the neighbor who gets sued.

The neighbor needs to be aware that she hired somebody who is not up to the task. If she can't walk her dog, it is her responsibility to find someone who can, and safely, not someone who lets the GSD drag her around and lets the dog charge Diane and her GR.

A conversation with the neighbor would benefit all, in my opinion.
Oh! I missed that. You're right, Sunflowers. Good advice, as always


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01-24-2014 10:56 PM
Chip18
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Originally Posted by Sunflowers View Post
It was the dog walker who said this.
Not the dog's owner.

I would talk to the neighbor about having hired the wrong person to walk the dog. This person could lose control of the dog, the dog could go after somebody, and it will be the neighbor who gets sued.

The neighbor needs to be aware that she hired somebody who is not up to the task. If she can't walk her dog, it is her responsibility to find someone who can, and safely, not someone who lets the GSD drag her around and lets the dog charge Diane and her GR.

A conversation with the neighbor would benefit all, in my opinion.
Very good point he dogs owner has already hired at least one person to help. Owner may have no idea what's going on.
01-24-2014 10:54 PM
Muskeg I think from the sounds of it the owner is doing the right thing by her dog, and the GSD is not at fault for lacking training or being walked by someone too weak to handle her. The dog should not be dragging the walker across the street- I see that as something worth talking to the owner about. Let her know the female dog walker is incompetent, and she should find a better one. Fair on all fronts, and not too nosy. I would be concerned if a dog was routinely dragging a walker toward me and my dog. I think it is OK to ask the neighbor to make sure this doesn't happen. But I think the owner loves her dog and is doing everything she can do provide her with proper exercise and care.
01-24-2014 10:39 PM
Sunflowers
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When the neighbor lady said "I'm very nervous and don't know what to do" she was asking for your help.


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It was the dog walker who said this.
Not the dog's owner.

I would talk to the neighbor about having hired the wrong person to walk the dog. This person could lose control of the dog, the dog could go after somebody, and it will be the neighbor who gets sued.

The neighbor needs to be aware that she hired somebody who is not up to the task. If she can't walk her dog, it is her responsibility to find someone who can, and safely, not someone who lets the GSD drag her around and lets the dog charge Diane and her GR.

A conversation with the neighbor would benefit all, in my opinion.
01-24-2014 10:29 PM
Cassidy's Mom
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I hope when you do confront her you let her know that you posted her story on the internet and you "received advice from people to...." If saying that to her and letting her know that you posted about her on the internet, is fine with you, carry on. Just typing out "I posted your story/situation on the internet" made me uncomfortable, I can't imagine saying it to someone, or worse, hearing it from someone.
Wow, really? I didn't see Diane say anything that sounded like she was planning on "confronting" this woman, it sounded to me like she was trying to think of a way to help her, after seeing that the woman is clearly over her head. This woman also made statements to Diane that showed she might appreciate some help. SHE opened the door, it's not like Diane is trying to insinuate herself into a situation where she's not welcome.

Diane is obviously a very kind person, who has gone out of her way to join a GSD board in order to get ideas of what she can do for her neighbor.
01-24-2014 08:59 PM
JackandMattie When the neighbor lady said "I'm very nervous and don't know what to do" she was asking for your help.

I think the best way you can help is to advise her to enlist a trainer. In the meantime, I don't see any reason why you shouldn't help her exercise the dog, since it sounds like you want to do that.

As long as you keep in mind that he is her dog, if you have the time, why not step up. Just keep in mind, and ask yourself what will benefit the woman and her deceased husband's dog, long term.

She clearly wants some input. I wouldn't hesitate to make friends and get involved


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01-24-2014 07:41 PM
Jax08
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Originally Posted by diane0905 View Post



Today when we passed, the woman said "I'm very nervous and don't know what to do."
Do what you think is right. If that was my mother you lived next too, I would be grateful that you took the interest and cared enough to want to help and that you took the time out of your life to look for input from people you thought might be able to.

The fact that this woman said this to you, implies to me that she might be open to suggestions and want the help.

Can you help her fit the dog for a harness or a prong collar? A prong might be hard for her to get on and off since she's elderly. Can you perhaps teach her how to engage the dog so she is more interested in her handler than everything else? Or maybe find a trainer that will come in to her house to help her?

Do they have a fenced yard? I wonder if a game of fetch might help tottire the dog out prior to taking a walk?

Good Luck! Please keep us updated!
01-24-2014 06:56 PM
Chip18 I had to help a neighbors doggie and it was a "HERDER!" Pet peeve of mine (yeah yeah I know GSD is a herder also )

But it was a doggie in trouble! It somehow popped into my yard through the slats on our 6 foot fence!

Anyway he was done, off to the pound for the dog. I said no I'll take her. I worked with animal rescue so I would just foster her.

She got along fine with my guys. And she must have at least been house broken because there was never any incident, I worked with her on real training and it all went very well!

We actually liked her enough that we wanted to keep her! But she was already scheduled to meet an 11 year old boy. Meeting went well and off she went. (:

Anyway I got involved with my neighbor and it worked out well for the dog. I also learned that Herders seem to suffer from the little dog syndrome. That is lazy clueless people that don't want to train a dog...seem to flock to them!

On the same note, I would not be advising someone without a clue to use a prong collar.

It's very easily abused ,especially by the clueless. Pretty sure the dog walker falls into that category. Out of the four dogs I have had, the only one that was problematic on the leash was my first dog, that was the only dog that I had used a prong collar on.

Yes you can achieve amazing results with a prong quickly but only if you know what your doing! It can ruin a dog just as easily.

So possibly fostering could be an option?
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