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|02-19-2014 01:42 PM|
Got busy with work and whatnot again and haven't been able to log in... just wanted to give a bit of an update.
Bruce is getting better with me but not with my so - which is his fault, he doesn't really work with him much outside of the house, especially in the winter. We've had quite a bit of snow lately and very frigid temperatures on and off, that combined with my work schedule and the poor boy isn't getting out for exercise much.
I've been using the techniques that were recommended on here and have definitely seen improvement, hopefully it will continue as the weather gets nicer and we are able to get out more. He went a little weird the other day when we were walking behind a man and his dog, he was trying to pull to get closer to them but once we got close he was trying to hide behind me. The man and I ended up stopping and talking for a few minutes, his dog was in heat. By the time we started walking again, ~5 minutes later, Bru had calmed down significantly and was just sitting beside me.
We still have quite a way to go but are definitely seeing improvement. It's supposed to be nice out this afternoon so I'm going to try to take him out with one of the dachshunds for a walk.
|02-17-2014 09:42 PM|
The way LAT works, is that dogs are given a positive association to seeing the thing that triggers them without reacting verbally, whether it is because of fear, as in this case, aggression, or excitement.
Eventually, he will...
1. Stop worrying about what's behind you because you've made him realize that there's nothing wrong with those people and they make good things happen.
2. Look to you when he realizes there's a person behind you because people behind you = treat from mom or dad.
Instead of asking a dog to ignore the object/person/dog completely, you're teaching them to accept that it's there, and turn to you for guidance after acknowledging the stimuli.
LAT training is most commonly used with reactivity or preventing it. With my puppy, every time he glances at another dog, I click/treat. I don't want him staring at other dogs long-term. But he figures it out and eventually I can wait for him to glance at the dog and look right back to me immediately expecting a treat. Then he starts getting the treat for looking to me when he acknowledges the dog very briefly/subtly.
|02-17-2014 08:47 PM|
I'm also a fan of redirection. I reward and praise whenever my dog looks me in the eye while something distracting is happening (like cars going by or dogs barking).
|01-21-2014 09:26 PM|
Also, have you tried an English slip lead? Anchor it tightly, high on the neck right behind the ears. It has been a lifesaver for me with both my GSD and my Weim. That and the shifting direction loose leash walking practice has cut down the pulling immensely. They Have to be focused on your next step! We still have a way to go, but I already have such a sense of success and relief
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|01-21-2014 01:58 PM|
Originally Posted by DJEtzel View Post
|01-21-2014 01:45 PM|
|DJEtzel||Keep in mind that look at that training does not actually involved a cue from you. No verbal. No need for confusion.|
|01-21-2014 01:36 PM|
Originally Posted by Liesje View Post
He spends a lot of time in the warmer weather in a park close to our house - it's very similar to what I think you're describing as a college campus, lots going on but still quiet areas. He's fine there, watches people and sleeps usually, he'll even eat there (we split a poutine quiet often, lol), but the second we get up to go somewhere (different group of people, to the bathroom, going home), he's hyper aware of where people are and is constantly looking behind him. It's like he can't relax on a walk if he's on his leash.
I guess I could start using a command like look at that (I don't want to use that because we already use look at me) at home and then follow up outside once the weather gets a bit better and we can be out longer at places like the park. Maybe I'll also see if I can get a lighter, longer leash and see if that helps too?
|01-21-2014 01:07 PM|
Originally Posted by ozzymama View Post
One example is a store we go to that's about a 15 minute walk away. He loves the girls that work there and they love him (but he still won't take treats from them). Anyways, normally we go down our street, left turn at the next street and continue for about 5 minutes, then right turn at the main street and continue for 10 minutes until you get to the store. Anytime we say "Bruce, go home" he takes us straight down a different street, through a park, along a length of train tracks and then down our street. We have NEVER taken him that way. It's interesting because if you look at it on a map, it's literally the most direct route. Sorry for getting off track, he's an incredibly smart boy but oh so stubborn and nervous.
|01-21-2014 01:06 PM|
|Liesje||I would ditch the prong and the head halter (honestly I'd use the prong over the head halter in this scenario but neither are really helpful here). Back up several steps, he sounds like he's just not ready for walks of this nature quite yet. I would take him somewhere where there will be other people, but he's not walking. Like a baseball field with a game going on, a college campus. Just stand/sit there and don't walk. Do the LAT game as Danielle suggests. He needs to know that it's OK, you have things under control and make a more neutral or even positive association with people walking around him.|
|01-21-2014 12:59 PM|
Originally Posted by DJEtzel View Post
He knows look at me, he does it fine at home, in high distraction areas, etc but will not do it when someone is behind him. If you are suggestion that we mark the unwanted behavior and treat for that - we did that with him jumping up and it worked well. He doesn't jump up anymore unless we say "Bruce, Hugs". The problem with marking and treating him when he's turning around to see whomever is behind him is that he won't take treats when other people are around - it took 3 months of the guy at the hot dog stand offering him pieces before he'd even take one, he won't take treats from the people at the beer store and we're there pretty often, he knows the girls that work there, he won't take them from pet stores either. It also doesn't help if I have the treat and try to give it to him, he won't take it then either. I've tried taking his ball on walks with us and getting him to focus on it because at home he would do anything for it - but nope, not even the slightest glance from it. I don't know how to mark it for him when there doesn't seem to be anything that I can treat with.
I realize that part of it is an exercise issue - it has gotten worse over the winter since we haven't been able to have him out as much. He's going a bit stir crazy at home and acting like a wild beast if you don't tell him what to do. I do OB with him for 20 minutes before I go to work in the morning, usually on my lunch break and then in the evening we'll do about 45 minutes to an hour of OB mixed with play. BF also does a bit of OB throughout the day. I walk him on my lunch when I have time (if my break is only an hour we just do OB, most often it's 2 hours) and in the evening. If BF is going out during the day he usually brings Bru with him, so that's another walk. During the winter, he's just had the OB and one walk/day - the weather was exceptionally cold on and off over the past couple of weeks so it has been less.
I guess in short - we don't use a prong to correct him, he won't take any type of treat to reward the mark with.
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