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01-20-2014 03:57 PM
Msmaria Your not alone..so take a deep breath. As u read this forum you will find that there's many of us that have the same issues with our dog. Luckily there's lots of good advice from experienced people to help out. I like you, socialized and did training and my boy was still having some insecurity issues. I've found changing up my training and where I train to help also. I was going to the same park day after day. Going to new parks and taking a different walking route was scary to him. I'm taking it slow and changing up the places I train. Lots of good rewards for good behavior. Lots of sitting back and just watching people. For us it helps if Dexter is close by when answering the door and he sees me letting them in, he's fine. The one time he was outside and I let the cable guy in he barked at him when he came inside and saw him standing there. You will have to find what way your dog is more comfortable with guests arriving and start from there.

PS. My dog goes to doggie day care too, sometimes bad habits can start from there and also socializing even with different dogs in the same place, doesn't mean they are socialized. They need different experiences. Do you know what I mean? I hope I'm making sense
01-20-2014 03:42 PM
Chip18 Aww crap everything sounds good but the 5 foot wall concerns me! How high is your fence? If the training goes well this my never be an issue but it would be a concern. If you ever see him staring hard at the fence...

Mention it to your trainer, I saw a Bad doggie Boxer on the street and herded him back to his yard he was at the 5 foot gate and I was trying to decide what to do next the dog spins around clears the fence like it wasn't even there??

He had no training I knocked on the door and told the people there dogs was back. They said it was the neighbors dog?? They said yeah he comes over here all the time to play with our dog! (we have 6 foot fences on the side yards around here!)

As I say this my never be a problem but keep it in mind.

And good for you for stepping up to the plate instead of cutting and running. I had to do the same with my GSD, after years of owning dogs he was a new challenge.
Today he is a happy well balanced doggie ,who still doesn't much care for company.

So having a "problem" is not anything new..it's what you do about it that separates you from the rest.

Welcome to the club!
01-20-2014 03:16 PM
Angus613 Not sure where my reply went... argh it was long! haha. Oh well... In a nutshell thanks for all of the advice! We are going to work on meet and greet, I am going to look in to soft muzzles for the time being and I have contacted a couple of trainers and will interview to see if they have had experience with this breed and also with this situation. I want someone who knows what the heck they are doing! I will also be prepared when I know someone is coming over and now know of this new behavior... it wont catch me off guard so hopefully I wont be so afraid next time and he wont sense my fear. My husband spends just as much time with Gus as me... he actually may take him for more walks than I do because if its cold I am home with the baby. Doggie daycare is only a socialization, fun and exercise thing for while I am working. They have not said anything about him being pushy or getting pushed around by the other dogs... I will find out! He obeys the workers there well, gets along with everyone so far and has a GSD buddy Haans that he met who is a little younger than him. The only thing "bad" he has done at daycare is jump the 5ft wall that divides the play group... but hey he only wanted to say HI!. If he does that one more time hes kicked out so I hope his curiosity doesnt get the best of him... they said it was more of an effortless prance over the wall... yikes!

Thanks again for the advice and if you think of anything else keep it coming please! We love Gus and will do what we have to to make sure he is safe and content and our guests are too... we need a dog that is a good family dog but will be protective in the RIGHT type of situation. I believe Gus is that dog we just need to get him there... he is still a pup.
01-19-2014 07:10 PM
Chip18
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Originally Posted by doggiedad View Post
it's good for teaching a dog how to meet people. it's for when people
visit.
Yep, keeps folks safe "while" you work with him, He might not never "like" people but he needs to safe around people! You can't do that if your worried about him biting the crap out of someone!

Muzzle him when company comes over, tell him to go to bed and stay! If he moves "that" is your first step in training.

Then you can start a my dog won't stay when I tell him to, rather than a "My dog bit the crap out of company what do I do thread!
01-19-2014 06:07 PM
doggiedad it's good for teaching a dog how to meet people. it's for when people
visit.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chip18 View Post
Yes he needs more training and more socialization. He's just like my Rocky (we got him at 7 months also) and I quickly discovered that as far as company was concerned he was not a Boxer!

You don't trust him, your job is to protect him from bad experiences! I count biting company or guest in the home as a bad experience! I would get a soft muzzle for this dog and use it while company is in the house. It's a tool not punishment, if he bite's someone, everyone's world is gonna change!

And if given the chance a dog can remove the soft muzzle, so it's not a set and forget tool! It's not for wearing 24/7. He has it on when you have company or he's in his crate and stays there until you tell him to move.

Not every dog is big on the meet and greet but if he's a family pet he should be safe around people in the home. And you not constantly worry about him biting the crap out of someone will allow you to relax while he's training.

I never used the muzzle on Rocky outside of the home but I never got near other dogs, never let people pet him and used the muzzle at the vet's office for the first couple times, until I "knew" I could trust him around people!

And today he's a happy well balanced GSD that is safe around company and in public!

>>>>> Still not a big fan of meet and greet but that's OK by me!<<<<<


Also I would be sure and get feed back from the Day Care and find out if he's pushing the other dogs around or is being pushed around? Crap can be going on there that's he bringing back home with him? Not a fan myself but that's me.

How much time does your husband spend with the dog!

Good luck and keep him safe.
01-19-2014 06:01 PM
Chip18 Yes he needs more training and more socialization. He's just like my Rocky (we got him at 7 months also) and I quickly discovered that as far as company was concerned he was not a Boxer!

You don't trust him, your job is to protect him from bad experiences! I count biting company or guest in the home as a bad experience! I would get a soft muzzle for this dog and use it while company is in the house. It's a tool not punishment, if he bite's someone, everyone's world is gonna change!

And if given the chance a dog can remove the soft muzzle, so it's not a set and forget tool! It's not for wearing 24/7. He has it on when you have company or he's in his crate and stays there until you tell him to move.

Not every dog is big on the meet and greet but if he's a family pet he should be safe around people in the home. And you not constantly worry about him biting the crap out of someone will allow you to relax while he's training.

I never used the muzzle on Rocky outside of the home but I never got near other dogs, never let people pet him and used the muzzle at the vet's office for the first couple times, until I "knew" I could trust him around people!

And today he's a happy well balanced GSD that is safe around company and in public!

Still not a big fan of meet and greet but that's OK by me! Also I would be sure and get feed back from the Day Care and find out if he's pushing the other dogs around or is being pushed around? Crap can be going on there that's he bringing back home with him? Not a fan myself but that's me.

How much time does your husband spend with the dog!

Good luck and keep him safe.
01-19-2014 05:13 PM
doggiedad it could be something simple like he needs training and socializing.
day care isn't training, spending a lot of time in the yard isn't
training or socializing. do you have people visit so you can work on
"greet and meet"? how much time do you spend on training and socializing?
maybe you should get a trainer.
01-19-2014 05:09 PM
Angus613 Thanks... great article!
01-19-2014 05:09 PM
onyx'girl Get him in a structured class so he can learn confidence thru his training. If you do hire a private trainer, please get one that knows the breed...try to get a good recommendation, and not a barkbuster type trainer.
7 months is the beginning of the dogs independent awareness and they will take 'control' of situations if they feel their handler isn't giving them guidance. Because the dog is still so immature they don't know how to decipher a threat or not...especially if there is some fear based aggression attached to their personality. He probably feels your fear in his behavior. Dogs sense way more than we give them credit for.
I would be careful with his daycare experiences too. How is he there and is he getting some structure or is it all freedom?
Step up your NILIF and build his confidence thru him knowing you have his world under control so he won't have to feel 'on' all the time.
01-19-2014 04:59 PM
Kaimeju I have not raised a GSD from puppyhood before so hopefully some more experienced members will comment soon, but I found this article which may explain some of what you're going through right now:

German Shepherd: Training Throughout the Stages of Development
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