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01-06-2014 08:23 PM
karuhpage
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Originally Posted by Twyla View Post
Your pup sounds much like mine around that age. He is now a bit over 3 yrs, more tolerant of adult humans (I am absolutely not going to risk a child to work on Woolf's behavior), still hates all dogs except for our other dog, but has learned to ignore them for the most part. He is managed. It took finally finding the right behaviorist/trainer and training of some kind every day to reach this point. If kids had been in the house and involved, there is no way I could have worked with Woolf and gotten to this point, it wouldn't have been safe for the kids.

If you are up to the time and commitment required, a trainer and/or behaviorist should be located. Keep in mind it isn't a quick or a cheap fix. You still may not get the results you want, you may instead find yourself compromising to keep your dog and others safe.

The other option is rehoming, which does have it's pitfalls as well. Rescues are overloaded. It would be difficult to find one willing to take on a reactive pup. If you gave him to another family, there is the risk he could become more unstable and actually bite. It would have to be a verified experienced home if you chose that method.

The first step I took with Woolf was a full checkup with bloodwork, then found the behaviorist we work with (after a couple of side trips with trainers who didn't know/understand what was needed). Did the evaluation, then made some decisions. There may or may not be a charge for the eval. There was a charge for Woolf's but it was a very involved and lengthy process.

If you will post where you are located, someone may have a good recommendation for you.

I definitely will put in the time and effort it takes to get Max under control. I'm already in love with him and would hate to have him get another new home... since he does already have some separation anxiety. But thanks for your input! I would love to have Max be good with other dogs but if hes just not that type of dog, I at least want him to be well behaved around them. Im located in central Pennsylvania if anyone has any suggestions!
01-06-2014 08:19 PM
karuhpage
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Originally Posted by wyominggrandma View Post
just curious. Did you adopt him from a rescue or humane society or from the breeder?
If he had a family until you adopted him, then I suspect he was turned in for that reason. Of course they are going to say he is kid and dog friendly, they want dogs adopted out. Is he neutered? He must be about 7 months now? Was he always like this from the day you brought him home or is this just recent behavior? Do you have kids? If so how does he act around them? How about visitors to your home?
Yes, trainers might be helpful, but as stated above, can be expensive. Its easy to say"find a good trainer" but sometimes its just not possible because of finances.
I suggest you contact the people whom you got him from Find out what kind of upbringing he had. If he was a dog that was in some ones back yard during his short puppy life with no socializing, he is a product of bad upbringing and possibly bad genetics and may not be suitable for your home and family lifestyle.
Well the situation of getting him was that the young couple were expecting a baby and had to move to a more suitable home to raise a child. Max wasn't allowed to go with them. To me, typically, if I were to move I would make sure my dog would come with me or I wouldn't move, but anyway, that's the story. He is not neutered yet, which I know is definitely a factor towards his behavior. He's great with my boyfriend and I (no kids) at home but when visitors come over he barks at first, and he sounds aggressive, but then he just wants to jump and lick all over you. His behavior has been like this since we brought him home. He is currently in dog training but I need to find one that focuses more on his behavior rather than learning to lay down for 5 minutes straight.
01-06-2014 12:34 PM
Oisin's Aoire
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Originally Posted by gsdraven View Post
Those replies are the only good advice there is to give. Modifying aggression, especially when children are involved, is not something to do on your own.

I have a dog rescued at 5 months old because of aggression to dogs, people and children. It took a lot of work and still to do this day is constant management and training. She doesn't have dog friends but is manageable around them and strangers. She is great with my 5 month old but I wouldn't let her around just any child.

It is just plain irresponsible to give any advice without knowing the dog or the skill level of the handler.
^This. Children and dogs living together when a dog is child aggressive ( especially a larger breed ) is not an occasion to spare feelings or soft soap anything. It is not the type of thing an owner should try to resolve by taking advice from other owners who have not seen the behavior first hand. It could be anything from play biting , to actual aggression..telling them anything BUT" seek experienced trained help" is irresponsible. You're not talking about someone asking for help with chewed slippers or counter surfing here. There is a chance that a child or another dog can be hurt.
01-06-2014 12:06 PM
Blanketback I can only tell you what worked for me when my puppy was going bananas every time he saw another dog - I had a tug toy to take along on our walks and I'd use it to distract him and act as a pacifier. He was overbearing and excited, very loud and obnoxious, and nothing else seemed to get through to him other than his toy. I even brought his frisbee on vet visits, just to keep him quiet. I know that embarrassed feeling, lol.

I'm not suggesting that your puppy is reacting for the same reasons mine was, but this is where a good trainer will be able to help you figure it out. Good luck.
01-06-2014 10:56 AM
gsdraven
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Originally Posted by Mac's Mom View Post
those replies bum me out and are disappointing for sure. Hiring a professional dog trainer is not something I could have paid for when I rescued a dog. If you can than great! If not, I hope you get some good advice. Bump.
Those replies are the only good advice there is to give. Modifying aggression, especially when children are involved, is not something to do on your own.

I have a dog rescued at 5 months old because of aggression to dogs, people and children. It took a lot of work and still to do this day is constant management and training. She doesn't have dog friends but is manageable around them and strangers. She is great with my 5 month old but I wouldn't let her around just any child.

It is just plain irresponsible to give any advice without knowing the dog or the skill level of the handler.
01-06-2014 06:49 AM
debbiebrown issues like this are not easy to try and solve yourself. can be very frustrating if you have never dealt with it before. as expensive as it might be hiring a trainer to help is the best route if you want to commit to making this better and keeping your dog. at the very least get an evaluation from a professional trainer and try a few sessions to get you going on the right track. then if you run into problems or questions you will have someone on board to consult with. maybe you can work out a payment plan with a trainer if you explain your situation. i think most trainers would work with that if they know you really want and need guidence to help your dog. and or there is always plastic. whatever it takes.
01-05-2014 11:20 PM
TinkerinWstuff As said earlier, a consult with a trainer is the only good option as no one on the Internet can witness what's actually going on reading the body language of everyone involved. I suspect the dog requires a handler with a more dominant personality - but what do I know?
01-05-2014 10:01 PM
Twyla Your pup sounds much like mine around that age. He is now a bit over 3 yrs, more tolerant of adult humans (I am absolutely not going to risk a child to work on Woolf's behavior), still hates all dogs except for our other dog, but has learned to ignore them for the most part. He is managed. It took finally finding the right behaviorist/trainer and training of some kind every day to reach this point. If kids had been in the house and involved, there is no way I could have worked with Woolf and gotten to this point, it wouldn't have been safe for the kids.

If you are up to the time and commitment required, a trainer and/or behaviorist should be located. Keep in mind it isn't a quick or a cheap fix. You still may not get the results you want, you may instead find yourself compromising to keep your dog and others safe.

The other option is rehoming, which does have it's pitfalls as well. Rescues are overloaded. It would be difficult to find one willing to take on a reactive pup. If you gave him to another family, there is the risk he could become more unstable and actually bite. It would have to be a verified experienced home if you chose that method.

The first step I took with Woolf was a full checkup with bloodwork, then found the behaviorist we work with (after a couple of side trips with trainers who didn't know/understand what was needed). Did the evaluation, then made some decisions. There may or may not be a charge for the eval. There was a charge for Woolf's but it was a very involved and lengthy process.

If you will post where you are located, someone may have a good recommendation for you.
01-05-2014 07:50 PM
wyominggrandma just curious. Did you adopt him from a rescue or humane society or from the breeder?
If he had a family until you adopted him, then I suspect he was turned in for that reason. Of course they are going to say he is kid and dog friendly, they want dogs adopted out. Is he neutered? He must be about 7 months now? Was he always like this from the day you brought him home or is this just recent behavior? Do you have kids? If so how does he act around them? How about visitors to your home?
Yes, trainers might be helpful, but as stated above, can be expensive. Its easy to say"find a good trainer" but sometimes its just not possible because of finances.
I suggest you contact the people whom you got him from Find out what kind of upbringing he had. If he was a dog that was in some ones back yard during his short puppy life with no socializing, he is a product of bad upbringing and possibly bad genetics and may not be suitable for your home and family lifestyle.
01-05-2014 07:27 PM
Mac's Mom those replies bum me out and are disappointing for sure. Hiring a professional dog trainer is not something I could have paid for when I rescued a dog. If you can than great! If not, I hope you get some good advice. Bump.
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