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01-13-2014 11:40 PM
Mesonoxian I'm definitely no expert on either wolves or hybrids. Nor anywhere near being an authority on judging whether a dog is 100% GSD. Your dog (who is a cutie, by the way!), looks to me like a GSD/Sibe mix. Emphasis on the GSD. I've met a fair number of GSD/husky mixes, and they all could be cousins with your lovely boy!
01-13-2014 10:23 PM
NormanF Loosely speaking ALL GSDs are dog-wolf hybrids.

The early ancestors of the modern breed were cross-bred to wolves after all.

That's how they got their intelligence and wolf-like appearance.

It doesn't take anything away from them. In fact, that's exactly why the breed appeals to people. Its the closest they'll ever experience to keeping a tame wolf in captivity.
01-13-2014 09:36 PM
JackandMattie Mostly GSD with a hint of Husky I don't see any wolf there. Seller probably thought you were buying with your machismo, and hoped that would fatten your wallet. Handsome dog... All dog!


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01-07-2014 11:43 PM
Susan_GSD_mom I have shared my life with a number of wolf/shepherd crosses (verified), and your dog doesn't seem to have any of the characteristics I am used to seeing. I loved them all dearly, but you have to be a fairly assertive personality to successfully live with wolfdogs. I preferred the wolf/gsd crosses, those crossed with malamute or husky were a bit too independent for my liking--but then, I prefer GSDs to any other dog breed. I had my last wolf shepherd (they are not hybrids) when the state of Michigan legislated against them. A few days after the bill passed we had to make a routine trip to the vet, and she joked, "Well, he just turned into a German shepherd, didn't he!" They are outstanding companions, but you have to be committed to a whole lifestyle change when they enter your life, more so than with even a GSD. They taught me so much about canine behavior, though, and I owe them all so much.

Love your beautiful dog for what he is.
01-07-2014 04:57 PM
xoChesleyy Thanks all. And yeah, I know haha. I agree! There's no way to know 100% anyways (DNA testing is ridiculous.. ), I was just wondering what everyone's opinions are. I'll keep it quiet regardless, wouldn't want anything to happen to him even though he is a wonderful pet! People shall know him as a "GSD mix", and he is lol.
01-06-2014 11:29 PM
LuccaVonCyclone It is very possible that the OP's dog could have wolf in there, with an emphasis towards domestic dog traits. Who knows? I can say the skull shape is absolutely that of a domestic dog.

Some people intentionally breed huskies to GSDs and sell them as wolf hybrids, because that combination often results in a "wolfish" looking dog. It's possible that's the case with this dog.

It's fun to wonder about what mix a dog could be, and kind of exciting to imagine that a lovable dog could be part wolf or coyote. Whatever the case, as others have mentioned, keep the "wolf" part quiet. Don't even mention it in passing. It's a huge liability and it could also give your dog a bad rep & even put his life in danger.

Keep in mind most "pet" wolves and wolf-hybrids are a train-wreck... they can be massively destructive, riddled with anxiety and behavior problem, un-trainable, and a danger to people and animals. Never seek one out from a breeder.

Good for you for rescuing this beautiful dog!! He really is stunning, whatever he is
01-06-2014 07:49 PM
wolfy dog She is beautiful, looks like a GSD with a trace of Husky.
01-06-2014 06:56 PM
Syaoransbear
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Originally Posted by vom Eisenherz View Post
Maybe I need to type more slowly. I'm not asking what my friend's "dog" was. I know what she was. I was there...lots of times. He also has pure wolves. I know that, too. I've seen them. I also know where they came from. I guess it's a big gov't conspiracy for USDA officials to put fake wolves on to people's property who possess USDA licenses to harbor them.

I never said Sasha didn't look anything like a wolf. She did. She looked more like the OP's dog than she did a wolf, however....just trying to make a point that it's possible. I disagree that this dog shows no traits, as I stated. Sasha was higher, this dog is likely lower. I hate to break it to you, but not all genes line up exactly how we expect, ie, littermates can take after one parent or the other in dramatically different manners. For example, African-Americans can be very light skinned or very dark, all in the same family. Physical traits are not always indicative of percentage of a certain heritage, human or canine or anything else. I had a high percentage F2 Savannah that looked much like a Bengal cat. There were F4's who looked more Serval.

You cannot perform DNA via internet photos...so sorry for the bad news. I really cannot understand why people pick at things that they know nothing about and go off on pointless tangents. My friend's farm's wolves are not the debate here; the OP's dog is.
What traits do you think are wolfy in the OP's dog, then? Based on what the OP says it doesn't even have wolfy personality traits. Perhaps your friend did have wolves and you are simply unable to properly identify wolf traits. If I showed these pictures to the wolf/wolfdog owners and groups I know and showed them your posts that you thought your friend's 75% timberwolf looked like this dog, they would come to the exact same conclusions I have.

It's irresponsible to tell people with dogs who look 100% like dogs that it may be a wolfdog because it puts the animal in danger and the owner becomes a target for liability. Most insurance companies will drop you if they hear even a rumor that you have a wolfdog and in many places they are illegal and they will confiscate your wolf dog and euthanize it. And even in places where they are legal they are still almost always banned from most pet stores, grooming facilities, dog parks, and trainers will have absolutely nothing to do with them.

If a dog looks like a dog and acts like a dog, why say it might be a wolfdog when there are so many legal repercussions, societal repercussions, and it's much, much more likely that it's just a dog and it's lineage was lied about? There is a great motivation to lie about lineage when breeders can charge a lot more money for a pup by claiming it's a wolfdog.
01-05-2014 10:23 PM
volcano My malamute/timberwolf ate our guinea pig, tore the top off the cage. Then she ate the parakeet, tore the cage off the ceiling hook and tore it open, feathers everywhere. Then she killed a neighbors dog and we had to get rid of her. They are more than a handful.
01-05-2014 04:36 PM
vom Eisenherz
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Originally Posted by Syaoransbear View Post
Even a low content shows physical wolf features. This dog shows none. And your friend was likely lied to when their got their supposed wolfdog if it didn't look anything like a wolf. There's no way a germanshepherd/malamute/timberwolf high content would look 100% like a dog. Considering the amount of people who get their purebred black and tan german shepherds mistaken for wolves(or coyotes), it's pretty safe to say the majority of the public doesn't actually know what a wolf is. And the majority of wolfdog sellers are either lying about content or were lied to about the content of their animals so they are continuing the lie.

I'm guessing if this rescue actually took this dog it's because they also didn't believe the claims of it being a wolfdog, because most are unwilling to accept that liability so they pass the dog to a wolfdog specific rescue.
Maybe I need to type more slowly. I'm not asking what my friend's "dog" was. I know what she was. I was there...lots of times. He also has pure wolves. I know that, too. I've seen them. I also know where they came from. I guess it's a big gov't conspiracy for USDA officials to put fake wolves on to people's property who possess USDA licenses to harbor them.

I never said Sasha didn't look anything like a wolf. She did. She looked more like the OP's dog than she did a wolf, however....just trying to make a point that it's possible. I disagree that this dog shows no traits, as I stated. Sasha was higher, this dog is likely lower. I hate to break it to you, but not all genes line up exactly how we expect, ie, littermates can take after one parent or the other in dramatically different manners. For example, African-Americans can be very light skinned or very dark, all in the same family. Physical traits are not always indicative of percentage of a certain heritage, human or canine or anything else. I had a high percentage F2 Savannah that looked much like a Bengal cat. There were F4's who looked more Serval.

You cannot perform DNA via internet photos...so sorry for the bad news. I really cannot understand why people pick at things that they know nothing about and go off on pointless tangents. My friend's farm's wolves are not the debate here; the OP's dog is.
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