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02-08-2014 09:31 PM
LTParis Well the good news is in the last 2 weeks we have seen drastic improvement with Nexus. Only 2 accidents since, and those were really over a week ago when the last one happened. The trick in this case is I am spending more time trying to calm him down before he goes into the crate.

Less busy mind == less anxiety / willingness to pee.
01-26-2014 02:33 PM
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No he is typically worse if there is any deviation from the schedule. So me being home means it's a free for all. Today alone since I have been home at 6:30p he has had 3 accidents, all within seconds of me putting him in the crate.

I am more and more convinced it's some type of anxiety, submissive peeing, or a simple peeing = out of crate thing. I am about to abandon the crate and let him be in the kitchen. It's the best area we can secure.
Yeah I was going to suggest tethering if you could be home and watch him the whole day. If he's better in the house than the crate, I would probably do the baby gate thing while you're gone.


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01-24-2014 09:31 PM
LTParis No he is typically worse if there is any deviation from the schedule. So me being home means it's a free for all. Today alone since I have been home at 6:30p he has had 3 accidents, all within seconds of me putting him in the crate.

I am more and more convinced it's some type of anxiety, submissive peeing, or a simple peeing = out of crate thing. I am about to abandon the crate and let him be in the kitchen. It's the best area we can secure.
01-24-2014 09:34 AM
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I feel certain that the dog is just flat out confused now. This morning I took him out, refused to do anything, and when I put him in his crate within 5 seconds he peed.

I have no idea how to modify his behavior against peeing in the crate now.
Hmm ok, we're coming up on a weekend. Do you get the weekends off? Is he better in the house than his crate or about the same? And you already had him checked out by the vet, right?


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01-24-2014 08:46 AM
LTParis I feel certain that the dog is just flat out confused now. This morning I took him out, refused to do anything, and when I put him in his crate within 5 seconds he peed.

I have no idea how to modify his behavior against peeing in the crate now.
01-23-2014 04:34 PM
LTParis The size is pretty small for him. He unfortunately does not have enough room to stand up straight, but he has enough to turn.

We follow about the same routine as you noted. Still unsuccessful to this point. He's had 4 accidents today. He's coming up on 13 weeks.
01-23-2014 04:00 PM
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Crate is big enough for him to turn around but if he has an accident he is usually in the middle of it. In most cases he whines if he has an accident in his crate.

This has been going on long enough now that I think he has learned "a bad thing". Going in his crate means he can get out of his crate. I sure hope not but this is my suspicion.
Ok well seriously the size of the crate was what made all the difference for us. We added a chicken wire barrier so she was just barely able to turn around. We took out any kind of bedding, and when she messed herself she went straight to the bath while one person cleaned the crate (or if it was just me she got dumped outside while I cleaned and then got her bath). As soon as everything was clean she was back in the crate. She didn't like being alone and she didn't like baths, so none of that was reenforcement for her. She only got to come out of the crate when she was being good (quiet and clean), and she only got treats for going into her crate when she was going in under normal circumstances (bedtime, or us leaving the house). How old is your boy? I know it's incredibly frustrating, but my vet assured me that all German Shepherds get it eventually (I broke down during Roxy's last set of puppy shots lol!)


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01-23-2014 12:02 PM
LTParis Crate is big enough for him to turn around but if he has an accident he is usually in the middle of it. In most cases he whines if he has an accident in his crate.

This has been going on long enough now that I think he has learned "a bad thing". Going in his crate means he can get out of his crate. I sure hope not but this is my suspicion.
01-21-2014 10:06 AM
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It comes in waves. It seems ANY deviation can throw him off, say I am working from home or the kids are home when otherwise they are at school.

I can just hope this is a phase and that he decides that going in the crate is bad for him.
How big is the crate? Does he cry after he messes himself?


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01-20-2014 03:45 AM
LTParis It comes in waves. It seems ANY deviation can throw him off, say I am working from home or the kids are home when otherwise they are at school.

I can just hope this is a phase and that he decides that going in the crate is bad for him.
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