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01-04-2014 08:53 PM
gsdsar
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I'm not disagreeing with your experience. My wife, who is a long time tech, has had the opposite experience. I have personally seen many dogs with ear mites in the working dog population, including one of my own. I have seen the white mites in the microscope myself.

My vet is the one that cautioned about mites migrating to the body of the dog. Several sources I have referenced agree.

Not trying to say you are wrong. Just starting that my experience is different than yours.

David Winners
It could be regional, the ear mite thing. Some areas may see it in dogs much more than my area of the east coast.


But I would love to see sources about migrating to the body. I have never heard that and all my text books for tech school and my vets have said it won't happen. So I am always open to learning.

As for the pyrethrin/permethrin shampoo for mites. I would personally never use them. Too many side effects and they don't work on normal skin mites anyway. Not sure about ear mites.

Not being difficult. Just different experiences.


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01-04-2014 08:47 PM
David Winners I'm not disagreeing with your experience. My wife, who is a long time tech, has had the opposite experience. I have personally seen many dogs with ear mites in the working dog population, including one of my own. I have seen the white mites in the microscope myself.

My vet is the one that cautioned about mites migrating to the body of the dog. Several sources I have referenced agree.

Not trying to say you are wrong. Just starting that my experience is different than yours.

David Winners
01-04-2014 08:31 PM
gsdsar
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I agree Carmen.

If Zymox isn't clearing things up, it's probably mites. Tresaderm is something I have used successfully to treat mites. You also have to treat the rest of the dog as mites will escape the ear canal and take up residence on the body of the dog. A pyrethrin shampoo works well for this.

David Winners
Mites that live in the ear are not the same as mites that live on the body. Ear mites will not migrate to the body.

Ear mites are also super uncommon in dogs. In my 20 years as a tech I have seen maybe 3 cases of canine ear mites. In cats, yes, see it all the time. But not dogs.

Zymox is wonderful, but if the dog is overloaded with yeast and now has a secondary bacterial infection due to itching the ear raw and having open wounds, it is not going to be effective. Zu mix is great if used at the very very beginning of a basic yeast infection. This does not some like that.

The dog needs to go the vet, have a smear done, and find out what kind if issue you are dealing with. You may need systemic drugs as well as topical. I would also ask for pain meds. It has to hurt and trying to get meds in and clear painful ears is unkind.


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01-04-2014 08:13 PM
David Winners I agree Carmen.

If Zymox isn't clearing things up, it's probably mites. Tresaderm is something I have used successfully to treat mites. You also have to treat the rest of the dog as mites will escape the ear canal and take up residence on the body of the dog. A pyrethrin shampoo works well for this.

David Winners
01-04-2014 07:54 PM
carmspack zymox is anti fungal -- check your dogs ears to make sure it does not have ear mites .
01-04-2014 12:00 PM
Freestep There is an ear cleaning solution called "Malacetic Otic" which does not contain alcohol and so does not sting. It's really good at getting the oily, waxy gunk broken up. I used it on my Akbash dog who HATED having his ears cleaned--he didn't mind the Malacetic.

Zymox is great, too. I use the regular ear cleaning solution in my grooming salon. The only thing I don't like about it is that it smells kind of "mediciney", while the Malacetic smells really nice. And it does contain alcohol, so it shouldn't be used on raw or painful ears--it's more of a regular preventative for ears that are just dirty and not infected.
01-04-2014 03:12 AM
volcano My girls ears arent responding to zymox. They have black gunk and shes scratched the ear so my homemade alcohol vinegar mix is a no go, it hurts her ear.
A couple months ago the bottle of zymox was like a nail clipper- it put her into avoidance. What I did was put the zymox in a little tube and then she let me get it in there. Then masage the base of the ear and that should feel good to the dog and theyll learn to like the procedure. Now she doesnt mind it, she comes when I say "this one" and hold up a paper towel or zymox bottle, the only thing is the zymox isnt doing the job. I get in theer and clean a bunch of gunk out and its back the next day. My thinking is its a yeast infection on my girl and zymox is more for bacterial.
01-03-2014 07:21 PM
Darth_Ariel I'll absolutely look into the Zymox, it sounds like a really good product and having a floppy ear dog as well I'm sure it'd be beneficial for him too.

Are you saying to change it all together or keep doing different foods?
He's only been on this food a short time since he was just moved onto an adult food blend.
01-03-2014 07:10 PM
carmspack Zymox doesn't sting so the dog will be more co-operative and it doesn't dry .
Vetericyn also makes a ear solution .

Zymox is better than any vet formula - and was introduced to me by my friend who is a OVC vet and holistic vet - and has other medical certifications.

change of diet because diet will contribute to yeast growth , overall immune health and resistance
01-03-2014 07:05 PM
Darth_Ariel Carmen, why the diet change? He's on a high quality kibble at the moment.

I'll tell her to do a cleaning while she's at it, it's probably the only way to do a deep cleaning since he's so fussy about getting them done at all and have her give me some of the Zymox.
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