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01-04-2014 12:35 AM
Wetdog Thanks Carmen----the one pictured there is a solid black. It seems to imply that solid black was a preferred color, but all of the ones that I saw in Latvia and Lithuania were tan and black saddles.
01-03-2014 11:04 PM
carmspack here is some more information on the EES Byelorussian ovcharka Shawlein Fine Art & Purebred German Shepherd Dogs
01-03-2014 10:01 PM
AmyOle Thank you for the link! I really enjoyed watching that! What gorgeous animals :-)
01-03-2014 08:48 PM
Wetdog Carmen-------you might be interested in taking a look at this FCI breed, sort of loosely based on just the influences you mention

East European Shepherd--------(AKA Byelorussian Ovcharka, which is a general term in Russian meaning a shepherd or herding type dog)

East-European Shepherd - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


They are slightly larger than Duetscher Schafferhunds---but not so much so that they would readily appear to be a separate breed, if you saw one on the street you'd simply think it was a large shepherd but still within fairly normal limits.
All the ones I saw were normal saddle type markings, and mostly dark tan rather than the reds that are bred for in Germany. They would be fairly ubiquitous among American line dogs..........maybe even slightly darker tan than most.

Slightly lighter color eyes, but only a shade or two from the dark brown GSD, no amber or blues.

Thick coats but not so much as to be very noticeable, I've seen many long hair GSDs much more noticeable than EESs.

Overall, very little enough difference to see one in the street and definitively say it is an EES and not a GSD.

Temperaments seemed high drive and high intensity----more like a Mallinois, but not off the scale of GSDs.
01-03-2014 08:34 PM
Packen Excellent movie Wetdog! thanks for posting the link.
01-03-2014 06:54 PM
carmspack Loved the show .

dogs looked so sturdy . I kept on thinking that those dogs , era mid 1930's -- were the type of dog which became sectioned off with the DDR wall post war . Dogs in the west changed , dogs in the new east did not.
look at precious wecious the Peke in the opening where the lady picks the dog up while at the GSD benches --- nothing at all like Pekes now.

great afternoon - last of the holidays , felt like a late arriving Christmas gift . thanks again
01-03-2014 06:30 PM
bill Thanks wet dog! A oldie; and a goodie! Bill

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01-03-2014 12:27 PM
Daisy&Lucky's Mom Wetdog Thanks for the link. Im planning on watching it tonight after work.
01-03-2014 12:24 PM
Wild Wolf
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got hooked into watching first 20 minutes - what an interesting video. I think I saw the date 1935 or 1938 on a ribbon at the bench . At one time dog shows were benched which meant that you had your spot , just like in the movie , and you were there from beginning to doors closed to allow public to come and see dogs and talk with the breeders and handlers. I participated in benched shows -- the last one (s) were part of the Sportsmen Show which held conformation and obedience trials over a 5 or 7 day spread . You reported in the morning and left pretty well when the lights were turned off --- and trialed . I am sure some of our older GTA members might remember or have been there as a participant. Now people come minutes before their entry and then flea like rats off a ship as soon as the results are in .

do you know anything about the dogs? sables . The "star" is very ddr before there was a ddr .

I'd love to know any historical information .
seems out of place , ahead of its time , a woman piloting her own plane , no segregation ---

sapphire , have a look , that could be your Gus's mother except for the screwy tail --
Glad I am not the only one who LOVES stuff like this!

Thank you for sharing!
01-03-2014 11:49 AM
carmspack got hooked into watching first 20 minutes - what an interesting video. I think I saw the date 1935 or 1938 on a ribbon at the bench . At one time dog shows were benched which meant that you had your spot , just like in the movie , and you were there from beginning to doors closed to allow public to come and see dogs and talk with the breeders and handlers. I participated in benched shows -- the last one (s) were part of the Sportsmen Show which held conformation and obedience trials over a 5 or 7 day spread . You reported in the morning and left pretty well when the lights were turned off --- and trialed . I am sure some of our older GTA members might remember or have been there as a participant. Now people come minutes before their entry and then flea like rats off a ship as soon as the results are in .

do you know anything about the dogs? sables . The "star" is very ddr before there was a ddr .

I'd love to know any historical information .
seems out of place , ahead of its time , a woman piloting her own plane , no segregation ---

sapphire , have a look , that could be your Gus's mother except for the screwy tail --
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