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01-04-2014 04:32 AM
SummerGSDLover OPs dog, Zeus, is just now four months. I bought an easy walk halter for my pup (same age as yours) and it works very well.

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01-03-2014 12:48 PM
FortheLoveofChari When I was working with my fiance to train his dog how to walk, I had him use a head collar.

To me it does a lot with owners who are learning to walk their dog. One, it teaches one to be mindful of how loose or tight they have the leash. A properly fitted and used head collar is a great tool for training with a person who needs to see results right away. (Like my fiance)

Once used as a tool, then comes the part of implementing what is learned about your leash control.

That was what I used it for when training my fiance. He had bad leash manners with Kodi, and using the headcollar I was able to show him what he was doing wrong. Whether it was having the leash too taunt or too loose, the headcollar pointed out those moments, so when he went regular collar it allowed him to implement what he learned to better control and walk Kodi.
01-03-2014 12:37 PM
Arlene/Archer
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Originally Posted by wolfstraum View Post
my opinion - and it is not the most popular opinion! - is that these things are nothing but bandaids for people who cannot train a dog....

Lee
What on earth are you basing this opinion on?


OP, I walk my dog around the city in a halti as it gives me total contol of his head and doubles as a muzzle of sorts. I use a canvas harness for running and heavy duty terrain work and a flat collar for local strolls, getting the newspaper and so forth. My dog is a fully intact male, approaching 22 months and is a perfectly polite and well-trained dog.
Use whatever works and gives you calm control of your dog, and be patient when training your dog to wear a halti as you would with any tool. Put the halti on, offer a treat, let the dog wear it for a moment, remove, repeat. Don't just slap it on there and hope for the best. It's a terrific tool used correctly, as MOST tools are ( and I include prongs too). My own dog wears his without a care in the world. I've added three photos: in his halti, in harness and on his flat, I don't think he looks overly troubled in any of them, does he?
01-03-2014 12:04 PM
Lilie My first puppy class I took my dog to requested us to use the Halti. I've had no adverse reactions to using one at all. My dog walks perfectly fine with a flat collar as well. He will walk quietly at my side with no leash at all. He never got out of one either.

When I am taking my dog out to a location where there will be a lot of people, I will use the Halti. I think folks think the Halti is a form of a muzzle and will not approach us to pet my dog. My dog isn't a social butterfly so it's a win/win for us. I use the Halti when we go to the vet's office as it gives me more control if another dog gets a little rude.

I've never used a prong on my dog. I never had to. I only use a choke collar when I'm giving him a bath, mostly because I bathe him outside on a table and it gives me something to hang on to if I needed it.
01-03-2014 11:55 AM
Cassidy's Mom How old is Zeus? How long have you been working on teaching him leash skills? Nothing is going to instantly "work", loose leash walking is a skill, just like any other, and you need to show him what you expect.

If your puppy pulls too much on a flat collar, I'd try a front hook harness like the Sense-ation, or the Easy Walk, especially if he's too young for a prong collar. But still, it's a training tool, not a substitution for training.
01-03-2014 08:17 AM
David Winners
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I agree. It was tough though, when I was at training class with my dog and you only had the option of using a flat collar and a halti, so I got one.

I hated it, so did my dog. It started rubbing the fur on the bridge of her nose (I had to put padding on it), and also was irritating her eyes. My vet said she sees a lot of neck and eye injuries with them.

It's preferable to your dog dragging you everywhere, and I have to say it does work well for that, but otherwise I really didn't like it.

My dog and I both like using a prong better. When she doesn't pull, it doesn't 'activate' and she is not bothered wearing it. Just putting the Halti on my dog, she acted like I was punishing her, and the first time I put in on she laid on her side in the fetal position and didn't want to move. lol
This is common, but prongs get labeled inhumane.

David Winners
01-03-2014 08:06 AM
blackshep I agree. It was tough though, when I was at training class with my dog and you only had the option of using a flat collar and a halti, so I got one.

I hated it, so did my dog. It started rubbing the fur on the bridge of her nose (I had to put padding on it), and also was irritating her eyes. My vet said she sees a lot of neck and eye injuries with them.

It's preferable to your dog dragging you everywhere, and I have to say it does work well for that, but otherwise I really didn't like it.

My dog and I both like using a prong better. When she doesn't pull, it doesn't 'activate' and she is not bothered wearing it. Just putting the Halti on my dog, she acted like I was punishing her, and the first time I put in on she laid on her side in the fetal position and didn't want to move. lol
01-03-2014 07:13 AM
David Winners IMHO, A head collar is a management tool. If you don't have the time or knowledge to train the dog to walk on a loose leash, but still need to exercise the dog, it can be a useful tool.

With that being said, you should never give your dog a correction with a head collar. It snaps their head sideways and can apply a lot of pressure to the neck in a very awkward angle. It is not a training collar meant for applying corrections.

I feel that if you own a dog and want to exercise it by taking walks, you owe it to the dog to train it accordingly. It usually takes less than an hour total to teach loose leash walking though leash pressure work. I see no need for the head collar.

How many trainers do you see using head collars?
01-03-2014 06:49 AM
rbyun I use a halti on my 18 month old. Have been using it since about 12 months of age. I find it easy to control the dog than a check collar as the correction is more direct and uses less force. He has wiggled out of it couple of times when he was harder to control but he's learnt a lot since and responds well. It makes control of a 90lb dog easy as it controls his head.

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01-02-2014 07:38 PM
Castlemaid I don't like them at all for a number of reasons, but I'd rather see someone have control than be dragged all over the place. A regular harness doesn't offer much control.

How old is your pup? A Martingale collar of a prong collar might be the solution you need.

One reason I hate Halti's is that dogs can wiggle out of them very easily - I used to assist in OB classes. Participants could use any collar or harness they wanted. We would recommend prongs or other collars where we saw it could help, but it was up to the owners to decide.

Every single class, there was always one or two dogs that wiggled out of their halti and take off. It seemed to me that the dogs that had haltis spent the whole hour fighting against it.

If you want to try a halti, have a collar on and have a short line connected from the leash to the collar in case your dog wiggles out of it.
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