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01-04-2014 10:22 AM
lhczth According to the WinSIS (which I still haven't updated since getting my new computer), Brawnson's dam produced 2 other dogs competitive in SchH. Darius and Dillon. They were by a different male. Darius was in Canada and made their WUSV team. Dillon was in the states.
01-04-2014 10:13 AM
lhczth I actually considered breeding to Brawnson at one point. His tail female line-out was exactly the same as my first schutzhund, Treue. Unfortunately in my area we did not get to see very many good Brawnson kids and the one super nice female that trained with us ended up having bad joints. I tested a litter out of a Czech bitch by Brawnson that was awful. Very high hunt drive and their environmental nerves were fabulous, but they wanted nothing to do with the tester (me) to the point of avoidance. I had never seen a litter so unwilling to engage with people.

I know there were much better Brawnson kids in other areas. We just didn't get to see them.

Speaking of Kutter. Mike had a really nice bitch puppy by him at one point. No idea who she was out of, but this was one darn nice puppy. With the right bitch, he could be a good male to use.

Nate Harves male Stuka is also a nice dog (Brawnson son and sire of Hunter's male). What impressed me the most about him was how clear he was off of the field. Little kids hugging on him and petting him.
01-04-2014 10:03 AM
lhczth Brawnson was not a made dog. Mike and those he trained/trains with just brought out the talents that were inherently in the dog. Mike tends to chose dogs to work that genetically are who they are and then molds those genetics to do what he needs the dog to do.

I may be wrong, but I think Brawnson had an SchH1 when Mike got him. I could find out easily enough though anyone who is interested could just contact Mike. He is a super nice guy and very easy to talk to.
01-04-2014 12:46 AM
carmspack I was wondering if anyone can fill in the gaps in the Brawnson information -- did he have littermates? , when did Mike Diehl get the dog ? Wonder if there are other littermates working but obscure because they did not have the exposure opportunity that Diehl gave the dog (deservedly so)
I can't remember the breeders name but can visualize some of his other dogs -- still waiting to hear back from person who would know this.
When Mike Russell and I used Brawnson there were a lot of detractors of the dog. I wonder if he had carried a foreign kennel name if there would have been a difference . So much carry on about the dog being "made" or propped by Diehl's skills , and so much about his hips .
We ended up putting a lot of energy into defending Brawnson .
01-02-2014 10:06 PM
wolfstraum
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Who is his current street dog? Someone was telling me he had a SB son or grandson that was not gonna be a top sport prospect but was the best street dog he'd ever seen.
Kutter Landesberg

Kutter vom Landesberg

According to Mike, he is more his mother than his father....I had planned to breed to him with Csabre a couple of years ago and a huge winter storm got in the way....never managed to get that breeding done....

Lee
01-02-2014 10:02 PM
carmspack
01-02-2014 09:58 PM
carmspack the guy was a ASL type breeder . Don't ask me ! I guess he didn't know what or how to proceed , and didn't intend to continue with this type of dog , or wasn't his market .
When Kohl was bred to Brawnson there was a great heated debate going on whether Brawnson had "it" or was "made" through superior training and handling . Brawnson had it - no doubt , proved it on the field and on the street -- , AND Mike Diehl trained and handled him to perfection for the field and the street . Credit to both.
Without Mike D's involvement Brawnson would have been another obscure working police dog . There was a lot of bitching about his hip rating which was OFA fair . I wish people would learn that OFA fair rating is a subjective grade within the NO dysplasia evident range . The other consideration with this grading is that Brawnson was advanced mature , and with years of strenuous police service work , when the hips were x rayed for certification.
Mike D has more than proven himself to be an outstanding trainer and competitor.
01-02-2014 09:18 PM
holland
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as far as I recall the breeder was a Canadian in Saskatchewan??
this Brawnson was his only venture into working dogs - total fluke , never did one before and to my recollection never again .

trying to contact person who told me this but have not received an answer yet to confirm.
Isn't that kind of odd...and if you bred a dog like that why wouldn't you keep him...
01-02-2014 09:04 PM
carmspack as far as I recall the breeder was a Canadian in Saskatchewan??
this Brawnson was his only venture into working dogs - total fluke , never did one before and to my recollection never again .

trying to contact person who told me this but have not received an answer yet to confirm.
01-02-2014 06:52 PM
lhczth Kutter vom Landesberg. He is on Mike's site under males.
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