|02-05-2014 08:16 AM|
|TommyB681||Thats a shame but unfortuntly he did what he believed was best to preserve himself. Self preservation|
|02-05-2014 04:12 AM|
Thousands upon thousands of people kill their dogs (of course they have someone else do the actual killing) simply because they didn't have the time to train it and got upset when it became too much to handle.
I won't say a word against a man who had to kill his dog to survive regardless of him going after the dog on day 3 or day 33. You want to get mad about people being hasty and killing dogs, then point that anger at the right people
|01-22-2014 10:18 PM|
Aside from my post being eaten by the website twice now, there was a time when hygiene was at a premium and some people didn't shower for up to three months. I have masculinity which is severely lacking in most of the male world today, so I was ordered to shower a little more often.
On topic. This man was poorly equipped for his area. During my time at MWTC, I kept common sense items on my person: Fixed blade, cellphone in waterproof bag, wrist watch, etc, with more in my backpack, which of course can easily double for a pillow. There was plenty of GPS, maps and compasses to go around as well. Mercy if I had to use a map, we would be lost for days...
If I wasn't in such a large group with mules carrying supplies, and emergency services within radio reach, it stands to reason to have an "oh snap" kit in a secured pocket.
Simple top of my head contents: Fishing kit, space blanket, iodine tablets, striker/fire, 550cord, pocket lint or cypress bark packed into a piece of straw (melted shut), waterproof bag, micro-LED light, signal mirror, etc. very small container. A compass attachment for a wrist watch goes a long way, so does a gun but this is Canada. A knife with a duct-tape handle wrapped in cord is good to for wounds and shelters.
Lesson taught here is have and do what you need to right now, so your future is less painful. I can go on and on about if he had this or did that but the fact is he didn't and this is the result.
Back off topic.
A phone with a custom ROM and good power discipline can last for weeks, but I often have backup power for my gadgets even on the side of a frozen mountain. Even if there is no service, it plays music, records, flashlight, mirror, signaling, etc, and sometimes you get some pure luck with a text attached.
|01-03-2014 05:08 AM|
|01-02-2014 03:17 PM|
I would think it'd be a good idea keeping the dog around after it already saved the guy from a bear according to one of the articles.
Sounds like he was bear bait if he wasn't found in time.
I think it is normal for people to feel the dog shouldn't have gotten eating.
But placed in a similar situation many would revert to their survival instincts and contemplate eating it. No matter how shocked they are at the thoughts.
|01-02-2014 03:05 PM|
I get hauled into the woods every october to do the no hygeine, no shampoo trips..I like the week or 2 we spend together with no phones or kids lol, I do not like the canoe tho, I would rather just back pack. My fiance is all about the canoe because he dislikes walking for hours. We usually go to Algonquin, maybe Frontenac is in the stars for us next year.
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|01-02-2014 02:53 PM|
|RocketDog||Some of us do that regularly.|
|01-02-2014 02:48 PM|
|carmspack||expect so much of this man who is lucky to be alive . How many who have responded on this thread could endure even one week without personal hygiene -- go two , three days without a shampoo ? How about no texting, no web sites , no phones .|
|01-02-2014 02:19 PM|
|ozzymama||The other thing to remember, if you have done canoe trips, it's not all water, you have to portage, one person by themselves, even with a lightweight canoe and supplies.|
|01-02-2014 02:16 PM|
Satellite phones are about $800 to buy in Canada - and they don't work everywhere. Dh and I have been on snowmobile trips and my phone hasn't been able to work. Nobody traipses through the woods in Canada with a rifle or gun of any sort unless it is hunting season and you have your tags with you. We had snow the end of October and I'm only a 1/2 hour north of Carmen. I remember when survival, specifically winter survival classes were mandatory in school - at least in the districts I grew up in.
It's the saddest story in the world and unfortunately, at least the man survived. I know of a few hunters who hunt a bit North of here and they take their dogs, not to hunt because for most big game, you cannot hunt with a dog, a dog running deer will be shot, but because of bears. Either they take a dog who will bait bears back to where it's easier to shoot them or they take them to run bears off who come too close to hunt camps. Northern Quebec is crazy terrain and incredibly isolated, there are camps for hunting and fishing and most require you be flown in and out, they just are not reachable any other way, except extreme hiking. My friends just returned from a year long bike ride around the world, they each only took one back pack, a bottle of water with a filter, so they could drink anywhere, any water, laptop, a few knives and a camera. People who take those sorts of treks are generally well prepared, but emergencies can happen. We had an extremely long winter here, the bears would still be very hungry and aggressive well into the summer. They will be worse next year, 2 long, cold, quick winters back to back.
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