|01-01-2014 06:23 PM|
I may have missed it so apologies if I've got this wrong but the allergies may not be totally food related. I had a dog who was allergic to both house dust mites and forage mites which are found in dry food. The vet spent months testing different foods and after nearly a year tests proved the origins if his allergies. It was an absolute nightmare to control and immunotherapy and expensive drugs failed to do anything for him. For a while we had him on a raw diet but it just wasn't practical for us and didn't seem to make much of a difference to him. The vet gave us a steroid spray for us to put on the bald itchy parts and that helped by reducing his scratching and nibbling long enough for the skin to heal and stop bacterial infection getting in. Once we had broken the scratch cycle we put some things in place which made a huge difference. The best was we rinsed his food in boiling water before feeding him. Problem solved! It stopped the scratching round his face and front paws. Then we removed all soft furnishings such as cushions and rugs from the house and gave him a waterproof cover on his bed as it was less likely to hold mites. He had one blanket which was washed every couple of days. This worked really well. I hoovered almost every day as well, our house had never been so clean.
Every dog is different but allergies are much easier to manage when you know what is causing them. Because our dog was insured the vet tried every expensive medical solution going but in the end it was a change of habits that worked best. We always had steroid spray on hand but only had to use it about once a year.
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|12-31-2013 09:22 PM|
|huntergreen||kristin, with all the money i spent on my gsd through her lifetime, i could have built a kennel and started a breeding program. in the end i got nowhere. if i had it to do over again, i would follow gator-bytes advice and see what happens.|
|12-31-2013 11:57 AM|
Thank you for the info on Dr. Pomeroy!
Homeopathy is one of his modalities , so I hope this will help Kristen's baby if she chooses to use him!
|12-31-2013 08:44 AM|
|AmyOle||I've heard great things about Dr. Pomeroy in St. Paul. We use Dr. Raeyna Longtin with True Companions Vet Van. She is lovely, and open to alternative holistic treatments ( as well as visiting us at home).|
|12-31-2013 08:01 AM|
We did Nutriscan. Solved our problems. Well worth the $
Also, get a flea comb and check for fleas. Check for flea poop in her bedding. My dog is seriously allergic to them, and one bite can trigger a horrific reaction.
|12-31-2013 07:52 AM|
Here are some other thoughts:
NutriScan by Dr. Jean Dodds (Researcher) This is a saliva test done at home and then sent to Dr. Dodds Lab. I've had several friends that have done this test with great results. Also, sadieshumom from this blog just had it done and was amazed with what showed up!
I've personally asked Dr. Dodds how her test differs from others (saliva or hair) on the market that are cheaper in cost. This is her reply: “There is no other scientifically validated method of detecting food sensitivity and intolerance except for our patented Nutriscan test (now patented worldwide, and for dogs, cats & horses in USA; cats & horses pending overseas). “
*This test measures antibodies to certain foods in dog saliva. High antibody levels indicate that the dog has a food sensitivity and intolerance to that food or foods. Food intolerance or sensitivity is actually quite common whereas food allergy is rare. In fact, food intolerance is the third most common sensitivity condition in dogs and often can be easily remedied with a change in diet.Dr. Jean Dodds, NutriScan tests for the twenty most commonly ingested foods by dogs to provide you with specific results as to your dog's food intolerances or sensitivities. Since it is a salivary test, you have the convenience to complete the test at home or at your veterinarian’s office. Best of all, you can have the results in approximately two weeks to help you put your dog on the right diet.
Remember, NutriScan is novel and patented and is not testing for food allergies, but rather tests for food sensitivities and intolerance. These are different body immune responses. Food allergy is a more immediate reaction mediated by production of IgE and IgG antibodies. Food sensitivity and intolerance, by contrast, measures a more delayed body response to offending foods by measuring production of IgA and IgM antibodies primarily in mucosal secretions from the bowel.”
NutriScan is split into two test panels, so you can order one or both. I’d order both.
Panel1: Beef, Corn, Wheat, Soy, Cow’s Milk, Lamb, Venison/Deer, Chicken, Turkey, White Fish.
Panel 2: Chicken Eggs, Barley, Millet, Oatmeal, Salmon, Rabbit, Rice, Quinoa, Potatoes, Peanuts/Peanut Butter.
130 for one panel (10 antigens), $250 for two panels (20 antigens). Vet Allergy test cost about $500 for 20 antigens. Check this page for test differences: http://nutriscan.org/the-nutriscan-difference/nutriscan-vs-skin-patchskin-prick-testing.html
Q. How does this test differ from other food “allergy” tests on serum or feces ?
A. Food allergy tests measure antibodies to IgG and IgE in serum or feces. These are typically more acute allergic reactions to foods, whereas NutriScan measures IgA and IgM antibodies on the bowel’s mucosal surface, and thus more directly correlates to symptoms of bowel (GI tract) disease. http://nutriscan.org/the-nutriscan-difference/faqs.html
“NutriScan is a patented novel saliva test for canine food sensitivity and intolerance.” http://hemopet.org/
“This test measures antibodies to certain foods in dog saliva. High antibody levels indicate that the dog has a food sensitivity and intolerance to that food or foods.”
“Food intolerance or sensitivity is actually quite common whereas food allergy is rare. In fact, food intolerance is the third most common sensitivity condition in dogs and often can be easily remedied with a change in diet. For years, though, the difficulty lay in figuring out what foods were problematic – until now. Nutri-Scan is novel and patented and is not testing for food allergies, but rather tests for food sensitivities and intolerance. These are different body immune responses. Food allergy is a more immediate reaction mediated by production of IgE and IgG antibodies. Food sensitivity and intolerance, by contrast, measures a more delayed body response to offending foods by measuring production of IgA and IgM antibodies primarily in mucosal secretions from the bowel.” http://www.hemopet.org/nutriscan.html
“In contrast to food allergies, food sensitivity and intolerance is more common and can be a long term reaction.” http://nutriscan.org/the-nutriscan-difference.html
“For the first time in veterinary history, pets can be diagnosed and treated for food sensitivities on an individual basis. We consider the dog’s age, breed, and size in all of our diagnostic technology. Not all dogs are metabolically and genetically alike and our technology provides for individualized care.” http://nutriscan.org/images/stories/Press_Release_Nutrigenomics.pdf
Consider the thyroid:
From Vet Pet Health:Thyroid hormone is also involved in skin and coat health. Hypothyroid dogs will often lose hair on their bellies, the backs of their legs, and on their sides. They are not itchy, but the hair just doesn't grow properly leading to thin coated or even bald areas. Their skin is often thicker than normal, and sometimes darkened, as a result of the hypothyroidism. These dogs have more problems controlling skin yeast organisms, which are a natural part of a dog's skin flora. They will have more problems with a greasy and often stinky coat/skin, and sometimes will develop full blown skin and ear yeast infections.
From the Dane Lady:It is my opinion, after working with hundreds of cases over many years, that when we are trying to re-balance the system and reduce the yeast/fungus levels in the gut, we have a much higher success rate when the thyroid is working properly. Now the problem is that yeast die-off, known as mycotoxins, actually can destroy the thyroidgland, which is the master lock to the whole glandular system (endocrine system). This is why having an current and accurate thyroid test done is critical to a successful re-balancing of the yeast overgrowth in the digestive tract.
Most veterinarians do not do a complete thyroid panel (5 panel test), nor do they know how to recognize a low normal test. I feel it is of utmost importance that you get a thyroid test analyzed by Dr. Jean Dodds at www.hemopet.com. I feel so strongly about this that I often will not do a consultation until pet owners have this thyroid test done before our consultation. Go to hemopet.com and click on services
You will note Dr. Dodds has 4 sections with instructions and forms for you to print out and take to your vet. Your vet will draw the blood and mail it to her labratory and she will send you the accurate results. She does a complete Thyroid Antibody Panel which includes T4, Free T4, T3, Free T# and a TGAA (thyroglobulin autoantibody) test.
I really don't recommend going by your vets blood test. But if you have already gone to your own vet and they have run a T-3 and T-4 - look at the numbers, if they are in the middle (50%) range, it is considered low for the giant breeds and you must treat with thyroid meds. You must insist on it. In fact, if your dog is a large/giant breed and it comes back in the middle range say 1-10 and it reads a 5 on your dog, it means it needs to be treated with meds. Ideally a large/giant breed needs to be above the 50% range and on small active dogs it needs to be even higher than that - say on 1-10 range it would need to be a 7-8!
This is what it says at Dr. Dodd's website:
"HEMOLIFE, provides the most comprehensive diagnostic profiles for detecting and interpreting autoimmune thyroiditis and hypothyroidism, with our specialized reference ranges. We use novel, 'green' non-RIA technology never offered before in veterinary medicine (patent pending). The Thyroid Antibody Panel (Thyroid 5™) is comprised of T4, Free T4, T3, Free T3 and TGAA. No other diagnostic laboratory offers this technology or provides clients with the detail, personal assessment, and recommendations offered by Dr. Dodds and her staff."
Hope you find the answer!
|12-31-2013 12:29 AM|
Long term steroids are very bad for your dog. You may want them short term and you can find a vet that will prescribe them, but don't let that be the end of it.
If I were you, I'd: Find a allergy specialist. Drive, fly, do whatever you've got to get there, as you're already throwing money away on things that don't work.
The are online tests you can order (or your vet can order) that test for food allergies.
Where are you? In Texas, Cedar pollen just blew up. I can see it in the air. Lots of people with allergies right now.
|12-30-2013 11:06 PM|
Agree with Gator!
Meat needs to be VERY lean. You would need to give a raw diet at least 6 weeks to allow it to detox the system. AND it can get worse before it gets better as the toxins leave the body in a number of ways:
“toxins” have to somehow escape the body. Dogs could show upsetting signs such as drainage from the ears and/or eyes, vomiting, diarrhea, stool that will smell SO bad it would make the strongest stomach urp! Stool with strange colors, mucousey stool, discharge from the penis or vagina, bad breath, ITCHING….even MORE than he was itching before, licking himself, it can come out thru the skin such as open sores or making him smell like last week’s garbage that’s been rotting out in the sun! LOL
So be patient if you do go raw!
Here is a great Digestive Enzyme/ProBiotic: Sunday Sundae: Sunday Sundae Nutritional Supplement
Did your dog get Lepto in one of her combination vac's?
“Since there are so many Leptospirosis serovars out there, and since the pathogenic strains vary, and since the vaccines cannot guarantee protection from infection, it would make better sense to not inject your dog with any Leptospira vaccines. The trade offs to avoiding adverse events from vaccination - not the least of which can be renal failure within 48 hours of injection, or four years of dermatitis and puritis – would be the human caretakers actually knowing their dog is sick with a pathogenic strain and having their dog presented immediately for treatment.27 To do this, animal guardians need to be aware of the symptoms of Leptospirosis in the dog.” http://dr-jordan.com/wp-content/uplo...cia-Jordan.pdf
Vaccinations yearly boosters are unnecessary - Dr. Hamilton, DVM
Also, IMHO, no flea/tick topicals adding more toxins to her system.
Here is a of list registered holistic vets in MN. Choose one with Homeopathic Remedy experience or with a Homeotoxicology background. They will get to the root of the issue, not just cover it up. It's worth a day trip if they aren't close, then they can consult by phone and mail.
PEQUOT LAKES ANIMAL HOSPITAL
30266 OLD HGWY 371
Acupuncture, Acupuncture (CHI), Chinese Herbs, Conventional Medicine, Homotoxicology, Nutrition, Western Herbs
Gordon Palm, Janet
10625 48th Ave. N
AVIAN, EQUINE, EXOTIC, FARM, HOUSE CALLS, SMALL ANIMAL
Acupuncture, Conventional Medicine, Massage Therapy, Nutrition, OTHER(fill in below), VOM
GLACIAL RIDGE VETERINARY CLINIC
16159 STATE HGWY 29
Acupuncture, Applied Kinesiology, Bach Flowers, Chiropractic, Conventional Medicine, Glandular Therapy, Homeopathy, Homotoxicology, NAET, Nutrition, Reiki, Western Herbs
MINNETONKA ANIMAL HOSPITAL
17408 Minnetonka Blvd.
Acupuncture, Acupuncture (IVAS), Chinese Herbs, Chiropractic, Chiropractic (AVCA), Clinical Nutrition, Conventional Medicine, Massage Therapy, Nutrition, Western Herbs
304 South Ash St
Bach Flowers, Conventional Medicine, Glandular Therapy, Nutrition, Reiki, Western Herbs
Holistic Veterinary Care, Inc.
8535 Central Avenue
AVIAN, EXOTIC, SMALL ANIMAL
Bach Flowers, Conventional Medicine, Glandular Therapy, Homeopathy, Nutrition, Reiki, Western Herbs
ANIMAL WELLNESS CENTER
24710 Beard Court
Bach Flowers, Chinese Herbs, Conventional Medicine, Glandular Therapy, Homeopathy-Classical, Nutrition
Healing Touch Veterinary Care, PLLC
9223 Carriage Hill Road
EQUINE, SMALL ANIMAL
Acupuncture (CSU), Chiropractic (HOWC)
DVM CVA CVTP
305 W. Broadway
EQUINE, EXOTIC, FARM, SMALL ANIMAL
Acupuncture, Acupuncture (CHI), Bach Flowers, Chinese Herbs, Clinical Nutrition, Conventional Medicine, Craniosacral therapy, Massage Therapy, Nutrition, Reiki, Western Herbs
POMEROY'S SMALL ANIMAL HOSPITAL
185 EAST 7TH ST
Applied Kinesiology, Chiropractic, Clinical Nutrition, Conventional Medicine, Glandular Therapy, Homeopathy, NAET, Nutrition, Western Herbs
Animal Connections Integrative Care
17235 12th Ave N.
EQUINE, SMALL ANIMAL
Acupuncture (CHI), Chiropractic (IVCA)
Crow River Animal Hospital
1969 Co Road 5 SW
AVIAN, EQUINE, EXOTIC, FARM, SMALL ANIMAL
Acupuncture, Applied Kinesiology, Clinical Nutrition, Color Therapy, Conventional Medicine, Glandular Therapy, Homeopathy, Nutrition,
Hope your baby gets better!
|12-30-2013 10:02 PM|
I would go back to RAW, grain/carb free. Add a digestive enzyme and keep low fat to start - fat is hardest to digest, they need fat so add raw organic cold pressed coconut oil. 1tsp/10 lbs of body weight. But start at 1/4 of that dose and work up over 2-3 weeks.
Also apply it to the skin, at least where she cannot lick it off.
Bovine Colostrum is a safe supplement to assist the immune system. Proper Nutrition makes one that has 40% immunoglobulin.
If you go back to RAW, use " baby calves" liver as the OM, this has the highest ratio of Zinc - an important trace mineral for skin, hair and immune health.
|12-30-2013 09:45 PM|
|KristineCantey||We give most diets a couple of weeks, most changes have been suggested by the vet. Some foods help with the itching but cause her serious stomach issues, that has been the reason for most flip flopping. She scratches alot, this is the reason for the hair loss, she bites at her self alot as well. The skin on her ears that has lost the hair is rough but with oils that has gotten alittle better. She is negative for parasites and mange. She is not on any otc meds right now but in the summer she is.|
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