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01-02-2014 06:36 PM
llombardo Many years ago I took in a collie/wolf because she was running wild and the owners really could care less. She was about 4 months old and a beautiful dog that became attached to me very quickly. I was homeless at the time and had no clue what to do with her, but she was safer with me then her owners. Finally I caved in and was going back home, but my mom would not allow me to keep her, so I brought her to the police station. I was advised not to say what she was because its illegal here, but a police officer with 5 year old twins took her(knowing what her breed was). I seen her about 10 years later and she did very well with the family and was still getting around nicely. I have never seen another dog like her and I'm happy that I was able to find her a home being the breed she was. She looked more like a collie and that probably saved her life
01-02-2014 05:15 PM
sunsets Carmspack, you are correct, no way of knowing if my friends first dog was a hybrid or just a shepherd mix of some sort. All I know is she was cool. I'm pretty sure the remaining 2 in her pack are the real deal, however, based on behavior alone.

Some of the counties here have restrictions on licensing hybrids. It's pretty easy to get around that by playing dumb and saying you have a "malamute mix".
12-31-2013 02:40 PM
carmspack There are breeds which are bred to look like wolves , but are all dog.
Finally remembered this one , Tamaskan Welcome to the Tamaskan Dog Register, the official worldwide registry. -- has a recall. Recall -- recall.
12-31-2013 02:08 PM
carmspack Taggart , wait a minute , why didn't I think of this before.

Just got an email from someone very pleased with the skin improvements on their formerly crusty itchy dog , and could they visit me at "market" next time I'm there to show me.

I answered -- people have come by spontaneously innocently walking their dogs in to the year round indoor farmers market , or being surreptitious and hiding little "pocket" dogs in their jackets . They get escorted out quickly. Later in the day I get the lecture about informing my customers to not have them bring dogs into the market (Waldorf) Health regulations prevent dogs and food products being in the same environment. I had to tell them that I would love to meet and see the results but they would have to send for me and I would visit them in the parking lot .

At one time I was hoping that I could take a pup to socialize , exposure and experience , have them in a crate at the back of my booth. Nope . No can do.

Health inspection is frequent to make sure everyone is practicing safe food handling . Licence to operate at stake .
no wolfs , no alligators - no dogs
12-31-2013 07:21 AM
Originally Posted by David Taggart View Post
I advice you to visit Toronto before saying that. There are plenty of dog friendly restraunts. Besides, the wolf belonged to the owner of the pub. If he really wanted to place a real alligator behind the bar, nothing could stop him.
Umm...some of us are from the Toronto area, I think you need to pay TO a visit.

No you cannot have pets in restaurants, some you can bring a dog to the outside patio, unless you have a service dog, you are not allowed to have them inside an establishment that serves food.

It is illegal to own a wolf in Canada. The only people who get permits are licensed wildlife rehabilitators. Some US states allow them, many do not, the only one that allows you to own a wolf as a pet without a permit is Nevada.
12-30-2013 10:40 PM
TAR HEEL MOM You can not legally vaccinate a wolf hybrid for rabies in the state of NC. All "domestically owned" dogs are required to have rabies by the age of 4 months.
12-30-2013 07:37 PM
Originally Posted by Freestep View Post
When I was at the highly stupid age of 19 years, I thought it would be incredibly cool to own a wolf hybrid. Everyone told me it was a bad idea. Of course, being 19 and knowing everything, I ignored them all because THIS time, it would be different!

Well, predictably, it was a massive failure. I spent $500 on this puppy, and the breeder made me take him at about 4 weeks of age so that it could "bond" with me. I had a GSD mix at the time, a female just over a year old, and he bonded with HER.

I socialized the **** out of that pup. Took him everywhere from the day I brought him home, because I knew that early socialization was important. He loved people, other dogs, and was very friendly and social, but that wasn't the problem. He was incredibly destructive. He ate the siding off the house, insulation under the house, trees, furniture, anything he could get to he would destroy. At about 5 months of age he became an escape artist. I could not keep him in the yard for anything, and had to chain him. He couldn't be left alone--ever--he had extreme separation anxiety and would howl incessantly.

He was impossible to train. If I had a bit of food, he'd do anything, but otherwise, he couldn't have cared less what *I* wanted him to do. His recall was particularly lacking. Fortunately, my GSDx was very obedient, so I could tell her what to do and he would follow her. Sometimes.

Because he was destroying the house I was renting, I got kicked out. I couldn't find another place I could afford that would take two dogs, so I became homeless and had to live in a van with this adolescent wolf hybrid. He peed in the van, he howled, he chewed everything chewable, and finally I realized this was a bad idea. I found him a home up in the mountains, which I thought was ideal, until I went to visit and found him chained up with an empty water bowl. But I was not in a position to complain.

After a couple of months, he escaped that home and was found about 15 miles away on the next ridge. The lady that found him also had a wolf hybrid female, and seemed to understand them, so I was greatly relieved when she said she wanted to keep him.

A few months after that, I was volunteering at the local animal shelter, and one day I saw my wolfdog there. I asked the staff what happened, and they told me that the female wolfdog had been harassing the neighbor's chickens and got shot. Worried that the same thing would happen to him, and with no way to contain him, the lady dropped him off at the shelter.

He was adopted by some people who moved to Washington state on acreage, and that was the last I heard of him. I can only hope he lived the rest of his life well.

tl;dr -- Getting a wolf hybrid was a huge mistake--DON'T DO IT.
You are describing how my husky was for the first 2 years of her life. Her recall still sucks, she is stubborn as can be, but she doesn't destroy the house.
12-30-2013 07:15 PM
Katy1985 HI, I have strong feelings on this based on personal experience 20+ yrs ago, still fresh. I had a wolf hybrid. I knew both parents. Dad was a german shepherd (wonderful boy)mom a high % wolf, not social, totally skitzy, (I was young and dumb) My female "kasha" was sweet, and a totally alpha challenge. We, (her and I) had the challenge frequently, She could not be trained 100%. We could hike 15 miles, she would come home look at us and pee on the floor. When scolded, she would look you strainght in the eye and challenge me. I never could leave her with anyone. She wasn't mean, just very difficult to train and control. She got hit by a train when out with my husband, I cried but always felt it was a mixed blessing. Not what you want to deal with for the 12+ yrs a dog will live. She was beautiful.

My friend had on of her siblings, totally different dog, more like her shepherd dad. But.... another sibling bit his 2 nephews, unprovoked. They were children under the age of 10. One was bit in the face the other on the shoulder while walking by. This dog also attacked any small animals, dogs, cats ets. Our friend had to walk the dog only where he knew he would not encounter any people or dogs. I used to go into his house and feed this dog when mark was working. He was semi OK with adults. But once again, not to be trusted, strong prey drive is an understatement. This dog lived to be 14 yrs old. I have experience with a total of 5 of these dogs. They should not be bred. This is for the sake of the dogs as most people cannot deal with such behavior. So... whats the point?? It is not a pet, they are 1/2 wild animal.
12-30-2013 06:50 PM
carmspack advise visiting Toronto? I was born in the shadow of Casa Loma . I lived in and around the U of T grounds, Toronto Beach , Riverdale , developed property in Leslieville.
dog friendly restaurant means you can tie it outside the enclosure for an outdoor patio -- done that when training dogs in city (Danforth)
12-30-2013 06:27 PM
David Taggart
you can't bring a pet dog into a grocery
I advice you to visit Toronto before saying that. There are plenty of dog friendly restraunts. Besides, the wolf belonged to the owner of the pub. If he really wanted to place a real alligator behind the bar, nothing could stop him.
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