German Shepherd Dog Forums - Reply to Topic

Increase font size: 0, 10, 25, 50%

GermanShepherds.com is the premier German Shepherd Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Thread: Dominant, bullying behavior? How to stop it? Reply to Thread
Title:
  
Message:
Trackback
Send Trackbacks to (Separate multiple URLs with spaces):
Post Icons
You may choose an icon for your message from the following list:
 

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the German Shepherd Dog Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Additional Options
Miscellaneous Options

Topic Review (Newest First)
12-31-2013 06:23 PM
03rangerxlt Thanks guys, you've given us a lot of stuff to consider.
12-31-2013 10:47 AM
wolfy dog You also have to realize that there is potential for the "fighting female" syndrome. There is plenty of info on this subject on this forum.
This is what I would do:
*give Nika way more exercise; she seems to channel her energy in bullying the other one.
* Review both dogs' obedience. Hopefully you work with the gentle techniques.
* Take Nika to a a class.
* Feed both dogs in their own crates to prevent resource issues. Remove the bowls after ten minutes, finished or not.
* Reward appropriate behavior in each others presence
* If you pet Addy and Nika shows up, body block her, by stepping in between the dogs, facing Nika with your back. It tells her that Addy dog is yours.
* Get the following book: "Feeling Outnumbered?"
* Never, ever respond as a bully because it will escalate and you will harm the relationship with your dogs.
* If you play with one dog, crate the other.
* Give them crate time several times a day.
* Remove all resources that they quarrel about.
* Do not favor the bully and forget about all that Alpha/dominance stuff; you decide who goes where, when, how and in what order.
* Practice the "Nothing in Life is Free" treatment
12-31-2013 10:09 AM
martemchik You can't allow the pushing around...but generally its much SAFER for the household if the bigger, stronger dog is higher up on the food chain. In some situations you can make the smaller dog equal or higher, but that would mean the larger dog never wants to challenge that again. IMO it takes a very strong/experienced handler to do that.

I don't suggest making it super apparent that one dog is higher than the other, but I would control their interactions. Correct both when they're getting too rowdy. Don't let one dog outwardly dominate the other. But I would definitely not force the younger one to accept the older one as more dominant. At some point, the old one will get really old, and the young one will challenge even more.
12-31-2013 07:25 AM
pets4life These aren't kids.. I don't agree one should be allowed to push the other around but there are other ways of dealing with this.
12-31-2013 05:55 AM
MiaMoo
Quote:
Originally Posted by pets4life View Post
I can't believe some of the stuff written here

I hope someone who knows whats going on fills the OP

YOur female gsd is always going to be above the mutt she clearly is saying that, you just learn how to make her act while you are there, when you arent there you cant change their relationship, start treating her like shes above the mutt and stop trying to make them equals.
In my opinion this just seems very wrong. To me, it seems like having two kids and one starts to push the other around. You don't just shrug your shoulders and say, "Well, Billy thinks he's the boss, so that's that, he's the boss." Billy gets punished and learns not to be a butt to his sibling.


OP - The things you've started doing (minus the holding down, which was already addressed) sound great. Stick to it.

Sent from Petguide.com Free App
12-31-2013 04:14 AM
pets4life I can't believe some of the stuff written here

I hope someone who knows whats going on fills the OP

YOur female gsd is always going to be above the mutt she clearly is saying that, you just learn how to make her act while you are there, when you arent there you cant change their relationship, start treating her like shes above the mutt and stop trying to make them equals.

This doesnt mean u give her more attention either just feed her first before him etc..


The way you are treating your gsd shes going to get more nervous and have more issues.
12-30-2013 12:05 PM
David Taggart About that, which concerns sleeping place: she thinks you love the other dog more. Probably, because you pity him and verbally punish her in his presence. Stop doing it. The only way to take his place - is to sleep where he sleeps.
12-30-2013 11:51 AM
David Taggart I'd suggest you to do what my grandfather did who had 11 hunting dogs at once. Leash them for the start and tether making some distance between your dogs in your kitchen. Place a stool in the middle for yourself. Ask them to sit ( they should keep sitting all the time ) and feed tiny bits of (cheese) one dog at a time. Each of them should wait for their turn. This exercise tell them that they are not adults, but still puppies. In addition mouthfeed your "alpha" - again, it tells her that she is little, thus in a position of inferior.
Though the whole pack hunts a (deer), only the alpha eats first. He wouldn't let to eat together with him even his best mate. That is the dog on the straw: he doesn't have opportunity to eat himself being busy occupied with barking at others who try to snap a piece from under his nose. Your dog wants to improvise this scenario so much that she drops food for this purpose, she creates the situation herself in order to play alpha. Tell her humiliating "Down" and feed that bit the other dog every time you notice it happens. Toys represent prey, so, the story repeats. Take two dogs for a walk and play one ball with both. One dog should keep sitting while the other runs after the ball. The ball shouldn't be dropped, but given into your hand, this way it would be easier for you. This exercise teaches more or less neutral attitude in respect of posession.
12-30-2013 11:36 AM
03rangerxlt It was suggested to me by a handler at work about a year ago. I didn't try it until yesterday, and she seemed to take it pretty well. But, I think we wont continue it if there is a chance of "making her worse."
12-30-2013 11:14 AM
my boy diesel The whole point of keeping her leashed and crate when not supervised is to "show her who is boss". As "boss" you control the resources, you don't have to pin her down and you're going to make her submissive peeing worse. you're already controlling her food and space, there's no need to pin her down and sit on her. those are old fashioned and out dated ideas that need to be disposed of.
This thread has more than 10 replies. Click here to review the whole thread.

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:12 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.3.2
PetGuide.com
Basset.net DobermanTalk.com GoldenRetrieverForum.com OurBeagleWorld.com
BoxerForums.com DogForums.com GoPitbull.com PoodleForum.com
BulldogBreeds.com FishForums.com HavaneseForum.com SpoiledMaltese.com
CatForum.com GermanShepherds.com Labradoodle-dogs.net YorkieForum.com
Chihuahua-People.com RetrieverBreeds.com