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12-29-2013 07:50 PM
Ashley_M
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Originally Posted by DaniFani View Post
I am also curious about this. Would love an update.
12-28-2013 07:18 PM
LuvWorkingGSDs
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Originally Posted by GSDLover2000 View Post
I stumbled over a few saying Hob Nob Border Collies are mostly bred for their looks and not their working abilities. Now I am not in a place to judge something like that. Yes, her dogs are gorgeous, but does that really mean their beauty empowers their ability to be the true working dogs they were bred to be. Now I am not sure how many people on this lovely German Shepherd forum know about BC's, but I am hoping anyone who does, or is experienced with breeders, and can determine the quality of Hob Nob Border collies will relay their knowledge to me.
There is a HUGE divide in border collies between true working border collies and AKC border (barbie) collies. No real equivalent exists in the GSD world. True border collie breeders will not touch AKC with a ten foot pole and are adamant about making sure their offspring are not registered with the AKC as anything other than PAL.

True border collie breeders put health and working ability/temperament over ALL else. They firmly believe that the intense natural abilities that border collies are so famous for can be lost in one generation of poor breeding choices.

I'm sure this breeder believes they have all the correct intentions and I am sure they produce nice dogs for sport venues, but they are not in any way working border collies. They simply cannot do the work border collies were created to do. (AKC herding doesn't count, it's essentially obedience training with sheep) As someone immersed in sport and familiar with many of the big names and their border collie lines, I will say that I am seeing a trend in the internationally successful handlers towards reverting back to true working border collie lines. They are seeing and experiencing the problems that come with sport breeding and looking back to original working sources.

Again, I'm sure this breeder has good intentions, but I do not believe what she is producing qualifies as a border collie any longer. The border collie is a breed developed solely with working ability in mind and no constraints as to conformation. It is the epitome of 'form follows function'. If a dog is bred from parents that cannot do the work that a border collie by definition must be capable of doing it is not a border collie.
12-28-2013 06:45 PM
MiaMoo Why not concentrate on the puppy you recently got? Why are you already looking into getting another puppy?

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12-28-2013 02:01 PM
GSDLover2000
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Originally Posted by BowWowMeow View Post
Great question! How about some updated pics too!
Alright! I will try and see if I can get them on my computer... not sure if I can but I will definitely try.
12-28-2013 10:32 AM
BowWowMeow
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Originally Posted by DaniFani View Post
Great question! How about some updated pics too!
12-28-2013 02:38 AM
Merciel I don't think Hob Nob is primarily breeding for "beauty," i.e., AKC conformation champions.

Looking on bordercollies.org confirmed what I already thought -- this is primarily a sport breeder. And a good sport breeder. If what you want (and are capable of handling) is a high-level obedience/agility competition dog, this might be a breeder to seriously consider.

If not, look elsewhere.
12-28-2013 01:52 AM
GSDLover2000
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Originally Posted by David Winners View Post
I spent about 2 minutes on the site and knew what general type of breeder they are. I'm suggesting you read stuff that is already there. There are threads about them.

David Winners
bordercollies.org is where I read about them breeding just for beauty, not really working. I did as much research as possible, but thought I would turn to you guys.
12-28-2013 01:42 AM
David Winners
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Originally Posted by GSDLover2000 View Post
Yes I know. I made an account, but I can not post until the admin approves me, and he/she has yet to. I joined late, so I expect a response in the morning.
I spent about 2 minutes on the site and knew what general type of breeder they are. I'm suggesting you read stuff that is already there. There are threads about them.

David Winners
12-28-2013 01:36 AM
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12-28-2013 01:35 AM
GSDLover2000
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I think you may find some better feedback, or at least more of it, if you search for Hob Nob on bordercollie.org
Yes I know. I made an account, but I can not post until the admin approves me, and he/she has yet to. I joined late, so I expect a response in the morning.
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