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01-04-2014 08:53 PM
GSDluver4lyfe I heard about the kennel in Canada where echo was at years after I got my current dog from people who knew Echo and his situation.
01-04-2014 08:52 PM
GSDluver4lyfe No I dont own echo, never even met him. My dog is an Echo and Josie pup and my "breeder" owned Josie not Echo. I was just saying I dont know much about Echo because things got pretty dicey with the breeder when I told her my previous dog had weak nerves and was crazy (literally would bite and try to kill anything that came too close. To me thats weak nerves, but to her it was impressive ) she gave me the pup took back the other dog and that was it. No more contact. Never even got my papers on my current dog.
01-04-2014 08:42 PM
vom Eisenherz I'm confused. You mentioned not commenting on the name you own Echo? I was thinking you owned a pup from him... Who bred your puppy?
01-04-2014 08:41 PM
Originally Posted by vom Eisenherz View Post
Echo was lucky to get out alive from the place that gave him the stupid double last name. He's an ok dog- I bet he'd be a great dog if he'd had a different life. If it looks like his ears don't stand right, it's because he was in a crate that was too small and they never grew right. When I saw him, at my house, brought here by a friend, his ears were bent forward, just like as if he was in a crate. His full brother, who I also know and had for a while is a GREAT dog, absolutely no issues, super, super temperament. The issues the OP is describing do not ring a bell with me as far as my experience with those lines/dogs.

RE: Czech...I won't get into that debate, as I don't really define the "lines" like most people do. If you're not breeding for the original purpose the lines were intended, out of a real need, then the dogs will never be as the ancestors were, thus, I don't buy into the mystique of a lot of this "DDR" and "Czech" stuff. But I digress...suffice to say his brother bears the proper kennel name and Echo does not, both are good dogs, one just luckier than the other.
I didnt hear about Echo till after I got my dog but the things I heard were horrible. And if my "breeder" (term used extremely lightly) was in cahoots with them she's no better.
01-04-2014 08:38 PM
Originally Posted by carmspack View Post
I would have to agree . Not so much a fear stage as a fear state.
that is a pretty serious level when the dog is afraid of its own shadow.
I was being dramatic. I know what kind of dog I have. And I accept him and I'm greatful for the dog I have. He may have gone through a fear stage but now he is confident. May not be as unnaturally confident as most people strive for but he does his job just fine for me. And the breeder was a piece of work.
01-04-2014 08:28 PM
GSDluver4lyfe I have yet to meet someone who tells me my dog has weak nerves and I very much trust the people I used to train with. His breeder is a different story. He's a replacement pup from my previous dog who did have weak nerves but luckily I got a good dog from a crappy situation. So for the name I cannot comment. Plus I never said he saw a lawnmover as a threat, more like a toy to play with. My dog is defensive, suspicious yet approachable. You can say thats a lack of confidence and I guess you can say the same for me. But neither of us let our knowledge that the world is not always a safe place hinder our actions or inhibit our lives in anyway. But we both accept that fact and are prepared to defend ourselves with confidence yet understand that there are bigger badder things lurking in the dark. You can call me paranoid and my dog weak nerved, I just call it being aware and not naive. But thats me, and I trust my dog with my life as Ive known he's saved it numerous times just by his presence alone. Any animal that has no sense of fear or reservation is not a good candidate for survival. Fear is a motivator and will present itself through life, its what you do with it that matters. IMO Like I just said, it is my opinion.
01-04-2014 07:37 PM
carmspack life with a pup isn't all about entertainment and circus level activity -- pups benefit from a calm environment - need rest to grow and for the sake of the immune system
01-04-2014 06:23 PM
Originally Posted by carmspack View Post
debbiebrown said "off leash this dog has all the confidence in the world, because if there is what he thinks is a threat he feels he can get away"

But he doesn't have all the confidence in the world. In fact his confidence has not improved . It remains the same as if he were on leash. What has improved is his options . He can flee.

If you want to help the dog don't have people come at him directly frontal approach. Have them come at an oblique angle , no drilling eye contact .

I did rehabilitation for a US broker of import German dogs , mid- 80's . Socialized the heck out of them and then they were shipped to the importer where they went on to homes or what ever clients.
Best training ground for me ever .

You don't use pressure . Flooding is too much for the system.
Always work within the capacity of the dog . Lot of observation.
the dog is an observer , later when signs indicate readiness the dog becomes a participant . You observe all the time. Your part is to find the right timing .
Diet plays a role . Started reading The UltraMind Solution: Fix Your Broken Brain by Healing Your Body First: Mark Hyman MD: Books . Some very good points about mind - gut connection. Foreword by Martha Herbert M.D , Ph.D, Assistant Professor of Neurology , Harvard Medical School and Director of Transcend Research Program , Massachusetts General Hospital , alone is worth the price of the book .
For the 14 week old --- dark always arouses heightened suspicion .
Don't push it . You haven't had the dog that long . Let your bond cement more and have the dog trust you.
Thank you!! I'm trying to gain his trust. No negative corrections (almost) Keeping everything positive...Lots of treats during marker training....Thanks for the advice....

Is there any particular exercises that will help gain that trust? I do all the normal things. Play with him, tug games, walks, car rides, etc etc etc...
01-04-2014 02:05 PM
Blanketback Well, I was being kind of sarcastic, lol. But I think it's best not to make general statements like, "a dog barking on leash is nervous" when there are so many other reasons behind it. You never know who's reading this thread or what they'll take away from it. Hopefully nobody would take anything as gospel truth....but you never know.
01-04-2014 01:44 PM
Originally Posted by Blanketback View Post
That's not true. A dog barking on a leash might be nervous. It might want to play, it might want to tear your arm off...the dogs bark for a multitude of reasons.
true. a high pitch bark could mean play. but a deep bark on leash imo is nervous. why would a dog want to tear your arm off for no reason? that imo is also crappy nerves.
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