|12-27-2013 07:06 AM|
it's a dog park but if someone isn't comfortable with your
with their dog call your dog.
|12-26-2013 10:40 PM|
I agree with Martemchik.
I don't think your puppy was in the wrong. I don't think you boy was being aggressive. But this woman did. The second I realized that she was uncomfortable, I would have removed my dog and redirected.
Just because it is a dog park, does not mean that an owner should not protect their dog from something they feel is threatening to THEIR dog. What if it had been another dog constantly mounting, harassing, chasing, nipping your dog. Would you expect the owner to step in?
As for the shoving, if it had been me, and my dog was being harassed by another dog, and the other dogs owner was doing nothing, I would use physical force to get the dog away from mine. Using a leg or knee to move a dog is not the same as say, kicking. If I have to use my body to protect my dog I will. I don't have an issue correcting someone else's dog if it's being rude and inappropriate. And I don't have time to go from person to person asking them to control their dog. My job is to protect and control mine.
Being in a public place means we have to act as responsible adults. We have to take ownership of our animals and be their guardian, from other dogs and from themselves. Just because it's public does not mean a dog can be allowed to do whatever it wants at the expense of the comfort if another citizen using a public space. It's public, we should be allowed to use it as we see fit. It's not up to us to decide how someone else should use a public space.
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|12-26-2013 10:05 PM|
I have to agree with martemchik. You have a large breed dog, who's breed happens to have a pretty nasty reputation in the eyes of some people. I am totally compliant with people not wanting my dog greeting/interacting with theirs. There's no point getting upset about it. Not everyone has to love your dog and his play style as much as you do - try to appreciate that some people might be intimidated.
EDIT: David Winners' post is definitely worth considering too. Great points
|12-24-2013 10:46 AM|
It has nothing to do with saying hello, or sniffing. A sniff or two are just fine. But there have been times where I've wanted to get my dog away from certain dogs at the dog park because I knew they were going to do something to anger my dog. He's friendly, and very stable, but there are things that will rile him up and get him to correct the other dog. I want to avoid those situations, so I'll try my hardest to get my dog away from the other dog. If the other owner doesn't do anything to help the situation, or just allows their dog to follow me as I am trying to put space between myself and that dog...I don't think that's right.
OP isn't going to like this, but it sounds like OP has a young dog that has no control at the dog park. It's perfectly understandable as there are times that my dog wouldn't recall because he was distracted at the dog park. A younger dog...probably could care less about what their handler has to say. OP couldn't get their dog to leave the other dog alone even though there were plenty of other dogs to play with. Maybe its OP and her dog that shouldn't go to the dog park?
|12-24-2013 12:58 AM|
|huntergreen||vrosa, i frequent our dog park often and know most of the regulars. sounds to me like that woman and her dog shouldn't have been there. no one or their dog should go to a public dog park and not expect other dogs to come up and sniff, play and other dog behavior. it is a public dog park and you don't get to think you should be left alone. imho, the op acted prudently, but next time let this person know, if don't want other dogs around her and her dog she shouldn't be there. if she touches you dog again , deal with it a little more strongly.|
|12-24-2013 12:12 AM|
Maybe the Greyhound has a history of aggression that the owner had worked through, and she was avoiding a relapse.
Maybe the Greyhound was throwing calming signals that your dog was ignoring and the owner was protecting your dog from the Greyhound correcting it.
My Cane Corso will thrash a dog pretty soundly if it repeatedly ignores cues that he doesn't want to play. Young dogs get the puppy pass, but an older lab/doodle/whatever being a goof and ignoring his non-verbal protests to play will get thrown to the ground and pinned if he doesn't feel like playing. Few owners understand why I will step in and remove their dog from the situation, usually saying, "Buster gooberball was just trying to play! Let them play!" , but if I let it go and Lu corrects the dog, they get all upset.
Socialization doesn't mean play. It means being around other dogs and potentially interacting with them socially. Some dogs don't play well and escalate to fighting easily.
|12-23-2013 06:26 PM|
|David Taggart||I would smile. Many people tend to associate their own relationship(s) with their pets to those which involvs human culture only. It make them easier to judge their own personal situations, you will never guess what was in this woman's head during your convrersation. Dogs are the dogs, they are much free creatures than us, only because they are mainly driven by instincys instead of principles and thoughts. "Concept" has no value to your dog, and he respects human morality not more than of an insect. The trouble with humans is - that we don't want things to go what they are, wre want them to match one of our own cliche. I'm a watcher, I don't make standars, i m looking for unusual I haven't seen before in dogs, that woman had watched - how much well the dogs' play corresponded to hert fixed cliche of dog's behaviour. Heart and soul, forgive all mentally deprived this Christmad!|
|12-23-2013 06:24 PM|
Its a public park, which means the public can use it in any way they see fit. YOU want to use it to socialize, OTHERS want to use it to go for a walk with their dog in a fenced in area. They don't want their dogs to socialize, but aren't hurting anyone in the process.
It was actually YOUR dog and YOUR activity that was impeding on HER dog and HER activity. Her dog wasn't bothering/preventing your dog's socialization in any way, shape, or form. Your dog was preventing this lady from going on a nice, calm, walk with her dog. And yet somehow the lady was in the wrong?
Sounds to me like this lady's dog wasn't hurting anyone, just wanted to be left alone, but clearly enjoyed some off-leash time that the lady might not have been able to provide it otherwise due to her living situation. Why are you making the rule that all the dogs should play/socialize in the park? Why aren't the other owners/dogs allowed to do other things at that park as long as they aren't bothering you?
|12-23-2013 06:14 PM|
You are criticizing her for protecting her dog. She didn't like the way your dog was doing something, and she told you about it. I don't disagree that from your description your dog was likely doing nothing wrong...the wrong thing is trying to say that she's completely insane and off-base in the way she acted.
My dog enjoys playing by mouthing the back of other dog's necks. He has no problem throwing them onto the ground/pinning/wresting ect. Would you like it if he was doing that to your dog and I just stood there thinking it was normal play? Just told you, well...he's not growling, barking, and I see no blood...so its just play!
Think of it this way...
If this was a HUMAN park and you were there with your family having a picnic, not bothering anyone, in the middle of a large field. I showed up with my buddies and started a game of football where the center of our field was your picnic area. How would you feel? Should I just tell you that its a public park and that I can do whatever I want?
Your question was about etiquette...and etiquette says...if the other person doesn't want their dog interacting with your dog, you respect their wishes and back your dog away from theirs. It's that simple. Clearly there is enough room at that dog park for you to go to a separate area and do something else with your dog.
|12-23-2013 06:07 PM|
I think that goes back to my initial statement that this is a public dog park with 2 separate sections. This dog was in the large dog area so it is to be expected that LARGE dogs are going to play with him which was the point of my initial post. If my dog was in the small dog pen and was bothering another, then of course I would go fetch him without thinking twice because that is not his designated play area. She brought a large dog into a large dog pen, while the "Play at your own risk" sign is plastered everywhere.
This thread is going no where I see Im not trying to "win votes" or rally against the crazy dog owner at the park, I came to ask for a second opinion and I got it from several view points. But with your statements I have to disagree, that is all.
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