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12-18-2013 10:15 PM
selzer I agree with MaggieRoseLee on this. The dog shouldn't be nipping/biting Mom. Sorry. Mom didn't just move in three days ago, get drunk in the evening and act too friendly/drunk/crazy around the kiddies.

It sounds like Mom has been pretty much present. And Dog-Pup is growing into his ears and tail, and thinks he's something special. I think the dog needs, like so many adolescent GSDs, a bit of NILIF, and training classes to get the leadership position back where it belongs. The dog should look at Mom in her drunk state -- which is NOT abnormal, and look to her owner, feeder, handler to take care of a possible problem.

If that person isn't present, then maybe the yearling needs to be crated while the responsible adults are not present, until he has matured with the aid of time, training, and good leadership.

1 year old dogs often make some big blunders. Usually it is a warning call. Manage the dog when you can't supervise, up the training to build the bond, and look into some NILIF to improve the leadership.

Oh, and apologize to Mom. Maybe having her be drunk around the kids isn't what everyone wants, but that is really a separate issue.
12-18-2013 09:33 PM
katieliz i think you can be pretty sure that you've hit on the difference between the daytime and nighttime behavior of your boy. so it's an easy fix, restrict his access to your mom at night when she's "different". then do the trainer and/or behaviorist thing and see if you can modify the nighttime behavior (of the dog, not your mom).

if everything is as you've detailed it in your post, and you can think of no other reason for his behavior at night, and if he NEVER has given you any other reason for concern, it seems you can be pretty sure that he's reacting to your mom's altered state.

just a suggestion...if he broke your mom's skin she should absolutely do a course of prophylactic antibiotics. i had a tiny puncture wound (accidentally from taking a ball away), which (five days after it happened and looked fine), caused blood poisoning and put me in the hospital on IV antibiotics for three days. if you are concerned about the possible problems from seeking medical attention for the bite, well, it could have happened accidentally when taking a ball away.

good luck in solving your problem.
12-18-2013 09:17 PM
brebrehj
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So did you see this happen or is this just what your mom/kid told you?
I saw it

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12-18-2013 09:15 PM
brebrehj
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i understand dogs being suspicious of drunk strangers but the dog knows this person. theres drunk people at my house all the time and my dog is fine. my very first shepherd who was a nervy badly bred dog acts like your dog does. in the morning he is loving and greets everybody. by night time he resource guards like crazy. literally a completely different dog. i'd get a qualified trainer to evaluate the dog. to me blaming a drunk mom as the reason over the internet is bad advice.
He is a very nervy dog and I can only assume he has been poorly bred. I dont know, I adopted him at 8 weeks from a shelter.
I'm not trying to blame my mom. I wad trying to think of what changes between his day time behavior and night time behavior with her and thats the only thing I can think of. Other than him reacting the way he does with her his behavior is consistent.

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12-18-2013 08:51 PM
boomer11 i understand dogs being suspicious of drunk strangers but the dog knows this person. theres drunk people at my house all the time and my dog is fine. my very first shepherd who was a nervy badly bred dog acts like your dog does. in the morning he is loving and greets everybody. by night time he resource guards like crazy. literally a completely different dog. i'd get a qualified trainer to evaluate the dog. to me blaming a drunk mom as the reason over the internet is bad advice.
12-18-2013 08:44 PM
Montu So did you see this happen or is this just what your mom/kid told you?
12-18-2013 08:07 PM
brebrehj
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I'm sure he can 'smell' the beer thus notices the difference, not saying it's acceptable, but that's what Id' bet on.

My female is just the opposite, we don't drink, but if I'm out and about, even tho she is VERY anti social in public, if I come across a drunk person, she's all over them (in a good way), like a wet noodle...Guess I can't depend on her to do anything if a drunk attacked me
Hahaha she could lick them to death

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12-18-2013 04:41 PM
JakodaCD OA I'm sure he can 'smell' the beer thus notices the difference, not saying it's acceptable, but that's what Id' bet on.

My female is just the opposite, we don't drink, but if I'm out and about, even tho she is VERY anti social in public, if I come across a drunk person, she's all over them (in a good way), like a wet noodle...Guess I can't depend on her to do anything if a drunk attacked me
12-18-2013 12:10 PM
brebrehj Having my children around my alcoholic mother is NOT my first choice. I don't drink as I have been around my mother in this state all my life. Its not just a glass of wine, its like 8 beers a night. She will never acknowledge her problem.
Its the only difference fromday time to night time I can think of that could possibly make his behavior change.
Whenever there are guests over he is very shy around them and non aggressive. It takes him a few minutes and he is fine.
I will be consulting with a trainer on this issue.
Weather she is drunk and he feels he is protecting the kids or not he is my responsibility. The last thing I want is for him to get carried away and seriously hurt her and have the worst happen to him :-/


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12-18-2013 11:33 AM
MadLab I would be worried if the dogs are resource guarding children inside the house with guests or family because what if they have friends over and they are play fighting. Is it ok then for the dog to guard? I don't think so.

But also I have seen my dogs react on people who are drunk. It is a natural reaction. The people may be louder and wilder and so the dog can instantly notice them as threatening.

You gotta strike a balance. Ask for mothers behavior to be a bit more mellow when drinking and ask the dog to give the family space.

Always acknowledge and accept the dog behavior. Realize it will protect the children and let your mother know it can be in danger if she doesn't relax around the dog.

The fact that she tried to rub an agitated dog is proof she wasn't understanding the dogs reaction to the situation. It may be a dangerous if you don't sort it out.
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