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12-22-2013 09:06 PM
Pine Colt Rivek It is normal for dogs to stumble in training if you take a step forward, even if they are prepared properly for it. The key factor in deciding if the stumble becomes a fall is how the trainer, handler and decoy handle it. Knowing when to push, and when to slow down is a key component in any kind of training. But especially any kind of bite work.

Make sure you find a decoy and/or trainer that you trust and you feel knows what they are doing and is doing best by your dog. And don't be afraid to ask, question and drag your feet. It is better to go slow and build an emotionally confident dog than it is to push too fast and hard and ruin your dog, making them unstable and nervy.

Bite work takes time. It's a labor/training intensive endeavor and should never be rushed.
12-21-2013 06:58 PM
Originally Posted by onyx'girl View Post
If I were you, I'd delete the youtubes(or set them to private) and just work your dog to the best of her ability.
12-21-2013 06:45 PM
onyx'girl The thing is, the helperwork is going to be critiqued along with your dog. Because the timing and the helpers methods show the dogs ability(or lack of)....If I were you, I'd delete the youtubes(or set them to private) and just work your dog to the best of her ability.
I know most helpers/decoys I've ever trained with are very serious about the training not being shared with people that have no clue what is going on in a session...interpretation is usually taken the wrong way, and it isn't fair to anyone involved.
12-21-2013 06:33 PM
Originally Posted by onyx'girl View Post
Does the helper know you are publicly posting the training? Many times they don't enjoy getting anonymously critiqued.
I only intended to have my dogs nerves critiqued by experienced members on this forum, but I got more feedback than I expected. So to answer your question? No, my helper does not know I'm posting videos of our training. It was never about him, it was about my dog having the abilities to do the sport.

Thank you for your concern Onyx'girl.

If everyone can please only leave feedback on my dog and her nerves would be greatly appreciated. If you have anything else to comment on please pm me.
12-21-2013 05:39 PM
onyx'girl Does the helper know you are publicly posting the training? Many times they don't enjoy getting anonymously critiqued.
12-21-2013 05:10 PM
szariksdad While I have only been a helper for a little over a year now to me it looks like the helper in the video is almost feeding your dog the sleeve instead of encouraging her to lunge up and grab the sleeve. He also does not seem to let the dog reset and then once reset keep biting and tugging to the point where he should slip the sleeve. It looks like one of the biggest things I am working on which is timing with the dog.
12-21-2013 04:47 PM
GatorDog I think that the helper could possibly have better sleeve presentation, but I also know that grip is also genetic and presentation wouldn't really make a difference in that case. The missed bites in one of the ealier videos are to build frustration..and lots of helper use that technique.

To answer your question OP, no, I do not think she has the stongest nerve. But that doesn't mean you can't still do it. Having a weaker nerve showline cross myself, I know that these dogs need to be worked a little differently, but I'd say she looks like she is enjoying herself if she is pulling you out onto the field like that!
12-21-2013 04:26 PM
jaybizy1800 Thanks again for everyone's feedback. Like always, everyone has been very helpful whenever I had a question regarding my GDS. I just wanted to give you guys a quick update on today's training. Our trainer said we need to work on stick presentation and we'll slowly add more pressure as we go along. Here's videos of all 3 bites my dog did this morning. I'm hoping for more positive progress next week.

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12-19-2013 04:39 PM
MadLab I just wonder how many decoys or trainers would hit a dog on the head with the stick so soon into the training?

This is after a few weeks with one day a week and 3-4 bites on the sleeve.

Wouldn't the aim of this training be to increase the dogs confidence.

Do people really think this is good decoy work?

Would it be wiser to introduce slowly and let the dog grip the sleeve for much longer without the lifting. That should be saved for when the dog is locked on properly.

12-16-2013 08:07 PM
Originally Posted by jaybizy1800 View Post
Being first time dog owners with no dog training experience my fiancé and I wanted a GSD primarily for companionship and to take with us everywhere we go. We weren’t sure if our personalities would be good fit for a high drive dog in our lives or lifestyle, (we thought a high drive dog would be destructive in our house). Now that I have been around many types of GSDs (WL / SL), I now know it’s all about the time and training you put into your dog. The day we brought our puppy home my fiancé and I promised each other that we would be 100% committed to our new furry friend. Having no kids our dog became our child. I became obsessed with my dog and I want her to become the best she could be. My fiancé thinks I’m crazy because all I do is read training articles and watch YouTube schuthund videos online. Training time with my dog has become a hobby and It’s all I want to do. Sometimes I look forward to spending time with my dog more than my fiancé…lol. I’m hoping one day I will be able to achieve a shutzhund title even though its may not be with my current dog….I guess I’m hooked. I wonder if there’s anyone else like this?!?!

I want to thank everyone for taking the time to analyze my videos and providing me with constructive feedback. I will probably stay with her training for now until I think its getting worse or our trainer tells us to stop, which he’s done to some dogs in our group. Im hoping things get better (keeping my fingers crossed). I will keep you guys updated with her progress and I will also look into other helpers in my area.
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