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12-17-2013 08:39 AM
Sri You could just tie a 10' long rope to your puppy's collar and let him trail it as he plays./ explores. Easier to step on it and grab hold if needed.
12-17-2013 08:20 AM
robeangyalchen
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Originally Posted by Sri View Post
Hi there! Nice to see you on the forums here.

If you dont have a clicker you can just use a marker word. A lot of people use the word "YES!"(high happy voice) to mark the desired behaviour . Like here :

How To Train Puppy To Stop Biting! - YouTube

This channel also has some nice training videos:

Dog Training Tips: Come When Called! - YouTube


Try teaching your dog the 'leave it' command. and use it to tell him to ignore distractions. Ofcourse it takes time to build up to high level distractions like other dogs or animals.

Also, at our puppy play group we leave the leash on the puppy as they play, and if they don't come right away when we call, we tug on the leash and run the other way. When outdoors people train with a 30' leash before going offleash.
Thanks for the link, i wish i could find these kinds of good videos when i search youtube myself. Needless to say, i have subscribet to the channel.
Using leash sounds good, now why didn't i think about that??
Goodluck finding 30 ft long leah here, but i guess i could tie any ropes to my leash now i feel like i Google/Search too much...and don't use my head Enough
I have been using positive reinforcement and i say "good Boy" and reward him, this has got me till here...yes and lots of Patience
12-17-2013 08:00 AM
Sri
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Originally Posted by robeangyalchen View Post
Thanks for the info, and i am glad that it's not just my puppy.
I will read through all the links you provided, i have read one thread but i guess i missed the other one.
And no, there are no good trainer or Training class here and it is too expensive as well.

If i am not wrong, i have also seen your hiking video with Glory and Berta Lee. That was the inspiration and an eye opener for me to take Tyson to the park, the park 4 kms far and it is a 8km walk in round trip. Before that i thought 8kms walk+playing fetch and playing with other dogs for half hour there was over exercising, and i was worried about his bones, health etc.

I was very impressed with clicker training, but i couldnot find clicker here and although it is $ 2-5 online, being Nepali and without Credit card or paypal i could not buy online. And again if i manage to buy it somehow, the shipping charges are outrageous i am trying positive reinforcement, doing this..doing that...i just hope i train him well.
Hi there! Nice to see you on the forums here.

If you dont have a clicker you can just use a marker word. A lot of people use the word "YES!"(high happy voice) to mark the desired behaviour . Like here :


This channel also has some nice training videos:



Try teaching your dog the 'leave it' command. and use it to tell him to ignore distractions. Ofcourse it takes time to build up to high level distractions like other dogs or animals.

Also, at our puppy play group we leave the leash on the puppy as they play, and if they don't come right away when we call, we tug on the leash and run the other way. When outdoors people train with a 30' leash before going offleash.
12-17-2013 07:46 AM
Sri
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Originally Posted by boomer11 View Post
i had the same problem with my first dog. he just loved to play with other dogs. in training classes he'd pull and whine and not listen. if i recalled he'd just leisurely jog back (if he came at all) while looking around. when i got my current pup, i just did engagement training/bonding for the first 6 months. made a HUGE difference. this dog thinks im the most fun thing in the world. he looks to me for all the fun. dogs arent as much fun as me. in my opinion stop taking him to the dog park and just work on engagement and getting him to have fun with you! recall with my current dog is him sprinting back to me no matter what he's doing. engagement is important.

20131011_162303.mp4 - YouTube


Did you not allow him to play with other dogs at all? I'm assuming you socialized him well, but did you not allow him to interact with the other dogs while around them, but worked to keep his focus solely on you ?
12-17-2013 03:08 AM
robeangyalchen
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Originally Posted by Kat Tastic View Post
You're not the only noob owner!
I am learning a lot from your questions as well.
And you are welcome to learn some more Are you having similar problems or it's just for reference??
12-17-2013 02:53 AM
Kat Tastic You're not the only noob owner!
I am learning a lot from your questions as well.
12-17-2013 01:06 AM
robeangyalchen ok, so i have to teach him same commands in every situations? ok, and what could probably mean that he sits sometimes when asked to in the park and sometimes don't??

sorry about so many noob questions
i will make sure that i correct only if he ignores the command, iam being very patient with Tyson, i have succesfully trainded him bite inhabitation (sorry if i spelled wrong, everything is new to me) i think i have successfully fought the landshark period. I have successfully taught him not to counter surf. But it took me a lot of time.
12-17-2013 12:07 AM
boomer11 with corrections i'd be careful and make sure the dog knows the command in certain situations. just because a dog sits inside the house doesnt mean it KNOWS what sit means everywhere. if the dog consistently sits inside and then suddenly blows you off then you can correct because the dog has been in that situation many times and knows the command but is clearly blowing you off.

if you bring your dog outside with cars driving by and ask for a sit and he ignores you, then you should NOT correct. he doesnt know sit in this situation. once you train/proof your dog to sit outside around cars reliably then you can correct for blowing you off. a lot of people train their dog inside and then when the dog doesnt perform outside it gets corrected; which imo is unfair to the dog.
12-16-2013 11:45 PM
robeangyalchen
Thanks.

Thanks a lot, that cleared up most of my questions.

So Tyson knows recall, he almost 100% inside, except when he is eating os i guess it's a start.
Now i have to proof it, and make a recall fun for him.
Ok, so i use correction when he know something he has to do,and he does not do it and he KNOWS it ?? well, that clears many things for me.
And i have to be clever so he does not blow me off.

Thanks for the suggestion for the videos, i searched yesterday and found too many videos with too many technique, i'll stick with michael ellis videos for now.



Edit: what can be a positive punishment?
in a note, i skipped park day today, and i did a obedience training instead.
12-16-2013 10:57 PM
boomer11 with recall you have to start inside the house with no distractions. when he comes 100% of the time then you can move to outside where there are new smells and sounds. once the dog comes 100% of the time then you slowly add distractions. having him recall around other dogs should be the last and ultimate test.

the recall should always be fun and positive. never call the dog back to yell at it or to take something away. sometimes when i recall my dog i will just take off running in the opposite direction and when he catches up to me i throw him a big party. other times when he recalls i'll pull out his tug and immediately play. coming to me is fun for him. i also wont recall him if i feel that he might not come. every time your dog blows you off he is just reenforcing in his mind that its ok not to come.

teaching the dog what recall means is the easy part. proofing around distractions is the hard and humbling part. once you feel your dog is 100% reliable around distractions then i would add correction. there will be a time when your dog knows what he is suppose to do but will blow you off. at this point i would add a correction (my personal preference because of its timing is an ecollar). the dog needs to know that come means come no matter what. you are far from this point though. you can go to the dog park if you wish but i wouldnt recall him over and over if he isnt coming. thats counterproductive and making him think that not coming is no big deal.

for engagement just go to youtube and type in "dog engagement training". the michael ellis videos are especially informative.
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