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12-13-2013 11:28 AM
Okin I will be interested to see what the OFA results say. Do you think there is a downside other than the cost to giving the Adaquan? Shouldn't it help the joints either way? When I was reading about it I read it didn't have a big impact on th kidneys like other drugs.
12-13-2013 07:30 AM
JeanKBBMMMAAN If I really cared I would do Penn Hip.

I do care, but just for diagnostic, therefore if positioning is off because the dog's leg won't move to a straight position due to their structure I am okay with that - that tells me a lot right there.
12-12-2013 06:59 PM
huntergreen i wouldn't trust either. i would want an ortho vet to check.
12-12-2013 06:01 PM
Colie CVT Things like this is why the scores on OFA aren't official until the dog is over two and they have finished growing and developing. A part of what can cause trouble is based on growth/development and the different things that can happen. Really nasty from the start HD is hard to miss. My first dog had her hips splay out from under her and she would yelp in pain and struggle to get up. That was at only a few months. Her hips eventually had surgery.

I work with a radiologist and the reason that people send him radiographs to review is that he has been specifically taught to see what most people would miss. I've learned a lot from him. The x-rays done on my female GSD and my roommate's both got different ratings between what the general vet believed and what the radiologist saw. My girl was given bad and my roommates good, but the radiologist found evidence of early OA on my roommates dog and saw nothing wrong with my girl's hips. I took both rads myself and I take things for the surgeons so I know they were correct lol.

Never hurts to have a third unbiased party say something (or in other words OFA) to see where that falls. I still plan to send my golden's in and do PennHIP on my girl even if her OFA was good.


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12-12-2013 04:42 PM
selzer My warranty reads that x-rays must be submitted to the OFA. It is true that too many vets get it wrong.

This dog's x-rays look like I would definitely want an OFA opinion on them. They can change yet, and only a pre-lim can be done at this point. But, I wouldn't worry over-much about those hips, and I would probably not be considering getting anything back from the breeder at this point because of them.
12-12-2013 04:32 PM
carmspack what is at the discretion of the breeder ?? that you don't get some refund?

that is so wide open and vague. Agree with Lucy dog . Get the facts from OFA. Communicate the results to the breeder. Continue to love your dog , do the best by them and for them. Enjoy.
12-12-2013 04:07 PM
Okin
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it is not a matter of the OP trusting her vet , the breeder needs to be confident in the competency - OFA is the final arbitrator settling disputes .
The x ray is good .

I don't see any reason why you would or should have to give up your dog to get any support from the breeder . That is emotional blackmail letting them off the hook. I wonder if the breeder would consider some form of a refund to help you out with future care expenses . You x rayed the dog and provided her with feedback on what this animal or this combination produced. Perhaps other pup owners will also x ray and give a clear picture on hip statistics . So with that the breeder gains with information, helpful in making choices. Your part of the deal will have to be that you do not breed the dog .
hope things work out for you.
The contract reads that is at the discretion of the breeder. So who knows? She won't be bred regardless I will leave that to the knowledgeable breeders.
12-12-2013 04:04 PM
carmspack it is not a matter of the OP trusting her vet , the breeder needs to be confident in the competency - OFA is the final arbitrator settling disputes .
The x ray is good .

I don't see any reason why you would or should have to give up your dog to get any support from the breeder . That is emotional blackmail letting them off the hook. I wonder if the breeder would consider some form of a refund to help you out with future care expenses . You x rayed the dog and provided her with feedback on what this animal or this combination produced. Perhaps other pup owners will also x ray and give a clear picture on hip statistics . So with that the breeder gains with information, helpful in making choices. Your part of the deal will have to be that you do not breed the dog .
hope things work out for you.
12-12-2013 03:56 PM
Lucy Dog
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Originally Posted by Okin View Post
I requested my vet get the OFA paperwork ready, I will have them sent out tomorrow. Regardless I am not going to trade my dog for a new puppy, I am attached and love her she is staying with me regardless.
Even if that right hip ends up being bad, they're not horrible by any means. They could be much much worse. The right supplements, a healthy weight, and a good diet and the dog might never show any symptoms his whole life. As a pet, there's no reason to ever consider trading him in for a new pup.
12-12-2013 03:56 PM
Harry and Lola If you trust your vet then go with him/her, otherwise get a 3rd opinion and definitely get the xray scored/rated.
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