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12-27-2013 07:18 PM
huntergreen i have not and never will register any dog with the AKC. they have done too little if anything to stop puppy mills and yet take money from said mills for registration.

op, never think you are researching when taking to a salesman. glad are now asking the right questions from the right people.
12-27-2013 12:33 PM
Please no pet store pups. CT is not that far off track for the PA and NY Amish puppy mills. Hideous.
While PA certainly has it's share of puppy mills, and that puts the focus on the Amish puppy mills in southern PA, MANY of the puppies in stores come from brokers who buy and ship animals from all over the US. Many from the midwest out of Missouri and Kansas. The Amish are a small portion of the total puppy mills and by putting the focus there, we lose sight of the majority across the country. Non Amish don't care for their puppy mill animals any better than the Amish.

The bottom line NOT buy an animal from a pet store regardless of where you live. Period. No reputable breeder is going to sell their animals thru a pet store, thru a broker or an online broker site.
12-27-2013 12:03 PM
blackshep I can't edit my post now, but I wanted to post this as well (although I think you get it )

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12-27-2013 11:39 AM
MaggieRoseLee EvanGodzilla , love that you are doing your research! No reputable breeder would place a puppy in a petstore because then they'd loose all control of who ended up with one of their precious pups. The PETSTORE just wants the $$$ and could care less if I bought the puppy to feed to my pet snake.

And to be AKC registered only means that, they are registered. No health or temperament guarantee. Worthless without seeing/knowing/real info on the parent dogs. I could have a AKC GSD that is blind, breed it to an AKC GSD with hip dysplasia and each and every adorable puppy from the litter could be AKC registered with all the problems cropping up as they reach adulthood.

Just really take a few hours to look thru --> as well as and you'll be amazed how much more you know then a few weeks ago.

Good luck!
12-27-2013 09:15 AM
blackshep It's great that you're doing your homework!

I agree, please don't buy from a pet store. Pups from a good breeder are not cheap, but remember that buying your dog is the cheapest part of owning it. One from good stock will mean your chances of having health and temperament issues are reduced, and those can be emotionally and financially taxing to deal with.

A good breeder will have socialized the pups, done health checks, evaluated their temperaments, and will be your support system throughout your dogs life. Well worth the purchase price, IMO!!!

Good luck in your search! Take your time and figure out what type of GSD you'd like, then look for reputable breeders (people here are a great resource). Don't be in a hurry to find the right breeder, this is a big decision that you'll have to live with for many, many years, so it's best to make sure it's a good one.
12-18-2013 04:55 PM
Kayos and Havoc Please no pet store pups. CT is not that far off track for the PA and NY Amish puppy mills. Hideous.

Smart of you to do your homework!
12-18-2013 04:52 PM
JakodaCD OA T/Piper hill is mainly an american showline breeder tho they do crosses ocasionally with wilhendorf dogs. Barbara and Frank are both AKC /GSD Judges. They have ALOT of dogs , atleast they did the last time I was there (quite a few years ago)

To the OP, I would check out ryanhaus in MA, I saw on FB she just had a litter of puppies, wolfiesmom here has one of their dogs and is very happy with him He's quite a character...
12-18-2013 03:39 PM
Originally Posted by EvanGodzilla View Post
Hi, I have been interested in getting a German shepherd puppy for a while now, and I have recently been getting more serious about it.

I was wondering if anyone has had experience with totana piper hill in killingworth CT.
I have never heard of them, but I am not an expert. I have a hard time finding the info on the health screening and the titles of their dogs. Hope someone with more knowledge chime in.
12-18-2013 02:30 PM
Cassidy's Mom
Originally Posted by EvanGodzilla View Post
I went to my local privately owned pet store just to get an idea what I was looking at.
I'm not in any rush to purchase because I want as much good info as I can get so I do not make a mistake.

Even though they are privately owned and they said their German shepherds are AKC registered, I still have my suspicions.
Just because the store is privately owned, that does not mean that they don't get their dogs from puppy mills, either directly or through a broker. Purebred AKC registered puppies are churned out by puppy mills all the time, so these very well could be AKC registered, but that does not make them well bred dogs from a good breeder. In fact, the opposite is more likely to be true. Reputable breeders do not sell puppies to pet stores.
12-18-2013 02:11 PM
wolfy dog Pet stores may also hold back crucial info. Years ago I pretended to be a puppy customer at "Scamps" (note the word SCAM in it?) and asked them if they could provide me with information about this "trusted local(!!!!) breeder". This is what he said in these exact words, "It is our policy not to disclose any information about the pups."
Many of us turned them in to AC and within a few years they closed the store in our town. Same happened with the "Pet Stop". store.
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