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12-10-2013 12:46 PM
wolfy dog The little one was barking and jumping around. That needs to be controlled according to Xena. You need to step in and become a leader to all the dogs so they don't have to take the initiative anymore. Little dogs often get away with more than the larger ones. Train that new little guy as if he were a 90 lb dog. And make him earn lap time so he won't consider your lap his personal pillow. Also I wouldn't leave them alone unsupervised because that can turn ugly one day if the dynamics are not ideal yet.
12-09-2013 08:58 PM
Baillif People tend to over complicate these kinds of things with their theories on pack interactions and dynamics. Just treat it like any other behavior. Reward responses you want to see and block or punish ones you don't want to see. The dogs will figure it out. If Xena has good bite inhibition that makes things a little bit safer, if not, that's what muzzles are for.
12-09-2013 08:42 PM
middleofnowhere There is so much wrong here...
As people have said: Probably one too many -- Adding a dog changes the pack dynamic in ways I cannot anticipate always.
As people have said: Placing the little dog on the couch on your lap; holding the little dog up high -- all bad ideas for getting along with the dog that wants to be a lap dog and is being denied and usurped as well.
AND WHY???? does this have to work? Dogs already there get priority over any new comer. They do. They have squatters rights. Your GSD is undoubtedly picking up the idea that she's lost status and that this little thing is taking over (has to work.)
It may not work. Get the "have to" out of your thoughts and it will have a better chance of working.
Muzzling your GSD may temporarily protect the smaller dog but I'd guess rendering it ineffective is really going to PO the GSD.
12-09-2013 05:33 PM
Lilie Sometimes, when you pick up a (smaller) dog it can cause the more dominant dog to react. You are bringing the new dog over the head of the other dog and they can think that means the little dog is trying to be dominant.

If you are at a dog park and dogs are getting pushy with a dog, the owner will pick up the dog that is being bullied. That will heighten the aggression in the other dogs. They'll jump and nip at the dog in the arms of the owner. Even if they are just playing, it can charge the situation.

I'd suggest doing what was mentioned in the above posts, but also add that when you are home, try sitting on the floor with the little dog between your legs and have someone else keep your GSD on a leash (for control should things go south). Let both dogs know you won't stand for any rudeness. That would include the little dog trying to get your GSD to play and your GSD doesn't want to.
12-09-2013 03:02 PM
Mr & Mrs Kirkley
Thanks

I finally found an out of town pet store that sells basket mussels. For some strange reason most only sell the cloth ones that won't let dogs open their mouths. The lady at the pet store also advised me to crate the new dog in the same room with the other dogs, not separately like last night.
12-09-2013 02:34 PM
LaRen616
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Originally Posted by Gretchen View Post
Is this your 4th dog? Maybe it's one too many. My cats are like that. If you have to make it work, try walking these two dogs together, as Blanketback mentioned, get them on neutral territory. You said your new dog loves to be picked up? That could bring out some jealousy, maybe do that less and have the new dog next to you but not on your lap.
I agree with this.
12-09-2013 02:29 PM
Gretchen Is this your 4th dog? Maybe it's one too many. My cats are like that. If you have to make it work, try walking these two dogs together, as Blanketback mentioned, get them on neutral territory. You said your new dog loves to be picked up? That could bring out some jealousy, maybe do that less and have the new dog next to you but not on your lap.

My dog is happy to share me with other dogs, but there is a fine line between petting them and giving them attention and having them too close, then she acts jealous or protective.
12-09-2013 01:50 PM
Blanketback It sounds like you did the introductions at your home? If so, definitely do it again somewhere else - on neutral territory.
12-09-2013 01:45 PM
pyratemom Xena may be feeling a little jealousy over the new one getting to sit in your lap. You mentioned that she had an idea she would fit in your lap and may feel put out. A basket muzzle would protect the new little one until you are sure it is safe. Training is the only way to get past this. You have to show Xena that she is still special that she still has her place but still has to show respect to you and other dogs. The only reason I would suggest the muzzle is to protect the littler one. Otherwise you have to be on top of the situation all the time and sometimes things happen that you don't expect and can't react to fast enough.
12-09-2013 01:39 PM
misslesleedavis1 So, i have had this happen and i find using a muzzle is the best tool. Just until you are sure zena will not hurt him, it may take a few days, walk them all together and make sure the little newbie knows his place in YOUR pack, be a leader. I have used a muzzle as a tool for situations that could get sticky, and it took about a week before my big goof (the one wearing the muzzle) accepted and moved on. I am not talking the nylon muzzle that fully keeps the mouth clamped i am talking about the roomy face mask that allows for the mouth to be open to a point, my dog to freely pant and drink water.
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