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12-09-2013 01:59 PM
Sri
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Originally Posted by Muskeg View Post
This is my favorite pack walk (well, run) video: freerunning sleddogs - YouTube

Granted, these dogs have quite a bit of hound in them and the training is different than with a shepherd, but the dogs are so happy!
How awesome is that!
12-09-2013 01:37 PM
Waldi I like it, did the same thing with my golden, she does walk without leash in fron of me and respose to verbal and hands control. She was very cooperative and never used any form of pressure to train her, except for willing participation and treats. I do put her on the leash if unknown dogs are approching and are on the leash to minimize risks. Now I have GS femal puppy (11 months) she does follow with footsteps on my older dog and walk without leash ( I put her on the leash when other dogs are approaching), I would not say I would be comfy with lettting her go on full urban environment yet but once she is mature, I think I can do the same. She is very focused on us and off-leash parks always sticks to us and waits for verbar confirmation that she can run and play with other dogs.
12-09-2013 11:09 AM
Bequavious
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Originally Posted by Muskeg View Post
This is my favorite pack walk (well, run) video: freerunning sleddogs - YouTube

Granted, these dogs have quite a bit of hound in them and the training is different than with a shepherd, but the dogs are so happy!
So cool!! When I saw the first video I was trying to figure out why the dogs were so close to him. I thought it might have been because it's an urban environment, but it didn't look fun for the dogs or the owner. This is much more relaxed and still with enough control to be get around other people/dogs.


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12-09-2013 09:29 AM
Mrs.P The walk is for the owner not the dogs. This guy is from my home town and his dogs are always so anxious -in avoidance. not impressed plays up the dominance theory too much. I've tried to talk to him about his breedings and the dog's pedigrees health tests titles ect and let's just say it was a quick conversation....
12-09-2013 09:07 AM
LaRen616
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Originally Posted by Muskeg View Post
This is my favorite pack walk (well, run) video: freerunning sleddogs - YouTube

Granted, these dogs have quite a bit of hound in them and the training is different than with a shepherd, but the dogs are so happy!
I LOVE this video! This is wonderful!
12-07-2013 05:05 PM
David Winners Sad to see these dogs under this much stress. Years ago this would have been normal for most trainers. Things are different now for the trainers that use their brains instead of taking the easy road.

You can make a dog avoid anything with an e-collar... BUT If you take the same dogs, same tools, but add some collar imprinting, which teaches the dog how to turn the stim off, and work at much lower stim levels, you have the same end result with the dogs having much less stress and conflict.

You can use the collar to communicate with the dogs and not deliver harsh punishments.

David Winners
12-07-2013 02:12 PM
wolfy dog
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Originally Posted by Muskeg View Post
This is my favorite pack walk (well, run) video:

Granted, these dogs have quite a bit of hound in them and the training is different than with a shepherd, but the dogs are so happy!
That's called dog training and requires intelligence and humility. The 5 GSDs in the first video have been forced/shocked into submission.
12-07-2013 02:03 PM
Blanketback Just out of curiosity, for those that like to imagine: how would the pack walk dogs react to a mugger? Don't say it can't happen because I've been threatened while walking my GSD - the drugs these days are weird indeed, lol.

But seriously, I hate the way these dogs are walking! I like offleash walking, but I want my dog to be aware of the surroundings. I want my dog to be about 12" to 18" away from me too - that video gave me claustrophobia.
12-07-2013 08:49 AM
TAR HEEL MOM THAT was amazing!
12-07-2013 06:43 AM
Arlene/Archer
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Originally Posted by Muskeg View Post
This is my favorite pack walk (well, run) video: freerunning sleddogs - YouTube

Granted, these dogs have quite a bit of hound in them and the training is different than with a shepherd, but the dogs are so happy!
That's exactly the video I would have posted, thank you Muskeg! I don't like the GSD pack walk at all and think the dogs look miserable; as others have said, control, but at what price. I'd rather have a happy engaged dog who is still a pleasure to walk than some kind of robotic zombie afraid to make one false move.
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