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12-12-2013 06:39 PM
Nikitta I fell in love with this breed when I got my first one 30 plus years ago. I now own my 6th and 7th one. I'd never own another kind.
12-12-2013 06:27 PM
sarah1366 Good for you I love the aloof quality and the loyalty of this breed the fact they can tell a good person from a bad one there protectiveness and th the unconditional love and yes they don't need to be aggressive my dogs every last one them have been vocal by nature and when they see someone who they've known since pups they will bark and sing out of excitement you'd be amazed how many people misread this breed

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12-06-2013 02:22 PM
KZoppa
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Originally Posted by GSDolch View Post
I'm curious, When you ask "notice anything" are you talking about the thread or just what you have had personal experience with? I ask because I haven't seen anyone in the thread think its OK to have a dog that is dangerous. There is a big difference between a dog that IS dangerous, and some random person who THINKS a dog is dangerous.

GSDs are suppose to be aloof, yes? Aloof by definition is not friendly or forthcoming; cool and distant. That doesn't equal dangerous or that people who want that in a GSD mans they want a "status symbol". Unless wanting a dog within standard is somehow wrong now?

I don't want my dogs to be friendly towards just anyone, something I think many people misunderstand. I'm pretty aloof with people to (part of being an introvert). So it makes some sense that I would be attracted to that within a breed of dog.


ETA: I don't disagree that there ARE people who get those breeds for exactly why you mentioned, but I also think that many people misunderstand the difference between the "status" and the standard.


yes. well said.
12-06-2013 02:17 PM
KZoppa See I didn't select the breed because of implied/public perception. though I wont deny that I don't use that to my advantage of keeping people out of my space. I selected the breed because I love them. They're amazing beautiful dogs and I fell in love with the breed early on. Given the image of "police dog" people have of the breed DOES help in me feeling more comfortable in questionable areas when I have my dogs though. I wont deny that but even if I had smaller dog, I'd still feel a bit more comfortable because they dog is likely going to notice something faster than I will no matter how vigilant I am.

Also, being how I'm not the biggest people fan, I wasn't about to have a dog that adored everyone. That doesn't work for me. I didn't want the breed that seeks people out to be friends. I wanted the breed that doesn't fawn over everyone and their mother. People stress me out. So having the dog that's always looking for the next person to pet them doesn't work for me. I'm social on my terms. And having my dog with me doesn't mean I'm always in the mood to be social. Having the dog that is always wanting to be social for me would be like mixing oil and water. It wouldn't work out.

That and I like big dogs.

And as was mentioned, I do agree that people who are afraid of my dogs (kids excluded) do make me a bit nervous.
12-06-2013 02:17 PM
GSDolch
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Anybody notice anything here?

By and large, GSD owners(along with Dobermans, Rotts, PBs and similar breeds as well) selected their breed because of an implied or public perception of being somewhat dangerous. And often go out of their way to foster such an impression. And are very frequently the reason for dogs that behave this way----they are trained to. Watch how the owners react/do/say and this is often clearly evident----and often it is the owners themselves who aren't connecting the dots. Never mind what people say----it is far more important how they react, and that often means saying one thing---but reacting in an entirely different manner.

Very effective training. Unintentional, but effective. The dogs pick up on it in a second.

I'm curious, When you ask "notice anything" are you talking about the thread or just what you have had personal experience with? I ask because I haven't seen anyone in the thread think its OK to have a dog that is dangerous. There is a big difference between a dog that IS dangerous, and some random person who THINKS a dog is dangerous.

GSDs are suppose to be aloof, yes? Aloof by definition is not friendly or forthcoming; cool and distant. That doesn't equal dangerous or that people who want that in a GSD mans they want a "status symbol". Unless wanting a dog within standard is somehow wrong now?

I don't want my dogs to be friendly towards just anyone, something I think many people misunderstand. I'm pretty aloof with people to (part of being an introvert). So it makes some sense that I would be attracted to that within a breed of dog.


ETA: I don't disagree that there ARE people who get those breeds for exactly why you mentioned, but I also think that many people misunderstand the difference between the "status" and the standard.
12-06-2013 01:16 PM
Lilie Wetdog - I suppose that is true. It would make sense.

I have four dogs - My GSD doesn't want to be your friend. My Golden is a basket case so he never gets to leave our property. My Dachshund only wants to be on a lap - doesn't matter to her who it belongs to, she wants to be there. My Lacy thinks he's a politician and wants to meet everyone - in fact, the club I belong to uses us to work our breed booth at dog events to represent the breed.

I guess...if I'm sober - I'm more like my GSD and Golden. If I've had an adult beverage (or two) I'm like my other dogs!!!
12-06-2013 12:01 PM
Wetdog Anybody notice anything here?

By and large, GSD owners(along with Dobermans, Rotts, PBs and similar breeds as well) selected their breed because of an implied or public perception of being somewhat dangerous. And often go out of their way to foster such an impression. And are very frequently the reason for dogs that behave this way----they are trained to. Watch how the owners react/do/say and this is often clearly evident----and often it is the owners themselves who aren't connecting the dots. Never mind what people say----it is far more important how they react, and that often means saying one thing---but reacting in an entirely different manner.

Very effective training. Unintentional, but effective. The dogs pick up on it in a second.
12-05-2013 02:13 PM
Msmaria
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Originally Posted by KZoppa View Post
SO TRUE!!! The animals in my family are for my enjoyment. Not the whole freaking neighborhood or city.
Being around people is not draining to me, I like people. (I am not putting down people that have a hard time around other people because I know we are all different) Sometimes when were out with Dex , we get tons of people wanting to stop and talk about him. Last week an older lady with a cane wanted to hold Dexters leash while my daughter ran into the car wash to pay. Only because Dex is good with staying did my daughter allow it (i wasnt there). The owner of the car wash told my daughter she could bring him in next time because she knows him and how well behaved he is. That day 5 people came up to her and wanted to pet Dexter. Other times we get rude looks from people, some while holding their own dog. Glaring at us as we pass by with their noses all wrinkled. sometimes I have to laugh. Dexter not even glancing their direction. Those people I could really care less about. If I worried about them I would only only be giving my self anxiety. Not about to do that. Life is too short.
12-05-2013 02:11 PM
GSDolch
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Originally Posted by Lilie View Post
I thought we were talking about folks who are afraid of your dog and not folks who ask if they can pet your dog.

When people come into my space - like my truck or my home, I don't feel I'm required to pull out a petting zoo license.

*nods*

As bad as I am sure some people are going to take it, I have to admit that people who are outwardly afraid of my dog make me want to avoid them even more than in general. I don't like dealing with people as it is unless I have to. When I do it's draining. Dealing with people who have issues they can't take care of (most kids excluded as I said previously) is even more so draining and awful for me. I am not their therapist.

If taking care of myself before a stranger is a priority some people can't understand....well, that's also not my problem. I sure don't feel the need to chastise people who don't act the way I think they should. Priorities I suppose.
12-05-2013 12:07 PM
KZoppa
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Originally Posted by Lilie View Post
I thought we were talking about folks who are afraid of your dog and not folks who ask if they can pet your dog.

When people come into my space - like my truck or my home, I don't feel I'm required to pull out a petting zoo license.

SO TRUE!!! The animals in my family are for my enjoyment. Not the whole freaking neighborhood or city.
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