|12-04-2013 08:45 PM|
|OhWhyChyGuy||Maverick is considered to be my husband and I's first child. We got him in aug 10, shortly there after I was pregnant, first son born april 2011 and our daughter born march 2013, we are now getting a new puppy in a couple weeks. My dogs = my family. There is no price on family.|
|11-22-2013 04:14 PM|
I have a number of dogs that I love. I have sold dogs that were a year old and under. It gets harder when they are get older because every day solidifies that bond a little more. I have a five year old bitch right now, she is already titled, I would never ever breed her, but every day she jumps up on her sister's dog house just to get a big ole hug from me. ****! How do you go and sell her?
And yet, if the right individual comes along, and you have the right dog for that individual, and it is better for the dog, good for the individual, and good for you as well -- one less dog that requires attention, training, vet care, grooming. Well, I can only say that it takes a strong person to put a dog's needs before their personal selfishness in keeping the dog.
Being a breeder means having more than one intact bitch, keeping pups back that might be used for the program, dogs that are dropped from your program for whatever reason, and taking back dogs that have not worked out. So it means having a number of dogs which may be more than a typical pet home would be comfortable keeping/managing. But with placing a retired, returned, or a bitch that has not worked out in the breeding program, it is not about money though we may charge, it is not a price tag, it is all about the right owner.
I had a dog, Rushie, who was titled, and got tons of work because every time one of the bitches came into season, I would sub him into their unfinished classes. He was four years old, passed his CGC probably 6 or 8 times, and had a TDI, and and RN. I got a call from a guy that wanted a dog he could take with him when inspecting nursing homes.
I thought of Rushie. I had bred him once and decided I would not use him again for breeding. So he was just a pet/obedience/rally dog. I had signed up to take him to nursing homes, but I hadn't done it yet with him. I let him meet this guy. And it was a good match. I took him back for a week so he could get ready for the dog, and when I brought him back, he lay his head in the man's lap.
3 years later I got a call. The man had told his wife that if she ever needed to let him go, that I told them I would take him. The wife told me her husband was sick for 2 years, and the dog stayed right in the room with him, and when he died he sat by the window for 5 days waiting for him to come home. But then he started acting like a puppy, running upstairs, and going out of the yard, and she was afraid for the neighbor's dogs. I went and got him that night.
Before I did, I called my contractor and asked him if he remembered the dog, and if he would like to have him. He did, and he did want him. So I went and got him, and kept him overnight, and took him to the vet and then delivered him to this guy. The guy was soft spoken like the first man, and he has an elderly father, this guy had a 90 year old mother living in the house who had kept hugging the dog when I was there.
At my house, I had crated the boy, and had all these girls barking and crazy. The dog was now used to having a family all to himself. It would have been a terrible thing for me to just keep the dog, and give him 1/10th of the attention he might get with someone else. It was the right thing to do.
It is never easy to let a dog go. And you do not need to be a breeder to be not the best home for a specific dog. If you got a dog with all the expectations to take that dog through SAR training, and the dog has all the goodies, but you have broken your back or have been diagnosed with something awful that will limit your mobility, or you have lost your job and the new job is working evenings and weekends. Sometimes the dog will adjust to the new schedule and be just as happy with whatever you can do with him, and sometimes it will be better for all parties to let the dog go to someone who is going to give the dog more of a challenge.
The answer is not a dollar value, but having good reason to believe the dog will be better off with the new owner.
|11-22-2013 12:13 PM|
I bred specifically for the my pup.. I was there at his birth.. I selected him to be raised with my family..(..one of my kids is almost the same age as Kaiser.) I have trained him to a high level of off-leash obedience, done some protection work, tracking, and he plays a psychotic game of fetch.
I haven't gotten any exceptional offers but comparing his temperament, work ethic and training he could easily compared with dogs worth thousands of dollars. That said, .. there is no way that I could in my conscious sane mind take a monetary amount in compensation for Kaiser.
Now I have heard of some tragic cases where people had to part with their beloved family member to pay bills for the financial well-being of their family. Yes my family and their well-being comes first. but selling this guy for empty profit is not a consideration.
|10-24-2013 11:03 AM|
|arycrest||The Hooligans? PRICELESS!!!|
|10-23-2013 09:58 PM|
|MichaelE||I couldn't part with Lisl for any amount of money. I can't assign a value to our relationship nor the happiness and companionship she provides me.|
|10-23-2013 09:52 PM|
What a great thing to think about. Ya, she is my dog- which means a lot more to me than the average person, as she is my life.
She is the most stressful thing i've ever had and he most expensive, but also the most real and the most life fulling thing that has happened to my life.
My life would be easier without her.. it really would.. But i cannot imagine my life without her- it feels empty, useless, and unlivable. (She has to die at some point, i'm already trying to prepare myself, its going to be SO HARD, but i hope that i will remember the moments we had, since dogs live in the moment, i hope she will have had more good than bad moments- and that i was the best i could be for her)
I was thinking about what Shade said, and that would be awfully tempting.. As i could save hundreds of dogs with that money, literally. However, i would be selfish. I really don't think i could do it!
They can however, try and pry her from my cold dead fingers- as they say. lol
|10-23-2013 06:38 PM|
I guess I am the nut in this bunch. I do not show or train my dogs in anything but good manners and do not exhibit them or show them anywhere. As far as value they are priceless and cannot be replaced with all the gold in the world. Each one of my pets over the last 40 years has lived a long healthy, leisurely life and has had the best food, housing and medical treatment money can buy. I have spent more than I care to admit, but each one of them was absolutely unique and irreplaceable once they settled into there new home. If I ever get to the point where I question the cost then I don't need to have a pet any longer. GSD's are by far much smarter and more creative than any other breed I have had and they present me with new opportunities to interact with them every day. So my girls are living Master Card Moments every day, they are priceless.
|10-23-2013 06:24 PM|
My dog has a purpose, if he/she cannot fulfill that purpose its not going to work out. If I just wanted a pet I would go to the local shelter. Its hard to find a good dog (or it has been for me) they have value and there is nothing wrong with that.
If the dog has given me good years of service and is to old/injured to continue to fulfill the purpose for which she was obtained thats a different story. I will honor that service and loyalty till the day she dies.
|10-23-2013 02:21 PM|
I used to have this question until I met a lot of "sport, show, and even breeder" people. The thing you have to realize about them is that their passion is generally the showing or trialing and not the actual dog. They understand enough to know that they can get another dog and successfully do that with them. At the same time...generally those dogs go to great homes to continue doing what they do best, or in the sense of retired dogs, they go to very loving homes where people have way more time for them.
Think of it this way...most of those types of people will always have a dog they're training to do X. A show dog takes a lot of time/money. To train a Schutzhund dog takes just as much if not more. So you're going to be spending all your time and energy on that one dog...and not really have time for the other retired dog. It's not very fair for that dog is it? Those that sell younger dogs...sometimes its just smart financially. I know a breeder that got a 5 figure offer for a 2 year old dog. She already had his lines, she could probably produce another dog that's very close to that one, and at the end of the day the 5 figures would help her operation a lot more than that single male.
As far as personally...I think I would only be able to sell my dog to the local police department, and then probably make sure I get him back when he's retired.
|10-23-2013 01:27 PM|
Boomer, I feel the same way about a police/military situation and the dog being asked of...a fantasy of course lol...but it would be honorable
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