|10-25-2013 03:49 PM|
|lhczth||I compete against myself so I doubt it would bother me. Kevin and I used to shoot together and, yes, there was some fun ribbing if I did better. I also don't compete against my club members and always want to see them do well.|
|10-25-2013 12:48 PM|
|Castlemaid||I may not really understand the issue since I'm not with anyone, but when I think about trialing, I think in terms of competing WITH my dog - not in terms of competing against someone else.|
|10-25-2013 11:32 AM|
|Liesje||I don't think it's a problem. Some of my fellow club and team mates ARE like family to me and every time I enter anything we are technically "competing". In flyball and agility, families compete against each other all the time. There are lots of couples, or even people with kids that participate with their own individual dogs, or on other teams (flyball). It's really whatever YOU make of it.|
|10-23-2013 09:05 AM|
|10-22-2013 04:43 PM|
I agree you can tell if you did better regardless of score. To me it's no different than any other sport. At the end of a football game there is a "winner" and a "loser". Both teams still go home watch the tapes and try and improve the next time.
|10-22-2013 01:03 PM|
At our most recent Rally trial, Pongu NQ'ed one of his two Level 3 runs, but I still viewed it as a significant improvement over our many MANY other NQ's in Level 3 because he did a perfect formal retrieve with his dumbbell in that run, and that had been a particularly difficult issue for crazypants dog in the past. He'd never done a good formal retrieve at a trial before, let alone with the dumbbell; it had always been something that fell apart when he got anxious.
The scorecard said NQ, but I still took it as a win. For us, it was. We took an intensive retrieve clinic just to fix that one specific issue, and it got better, and that's what I wanted to see.
We got not-so-stellar scores on several other runs that trial too, but I know where all the mistakes were (on my end, mostly) and yep, the numbers and placements on the run sheet might not reflect it, but I know we're getting better.
That's the real point of competition, ultimately -- just to test your training and see where you are, and hopefully that it's better than wherever you were six months ago.
I honestly don't worry about how most other competitors do. If they're great, it's inspiring. If they're having a tough day, I might try to go over and express some sympathy and encouragement. But unless I think the scoring is unfair (and that has happened a couple of times, but really only twice in the whole time I've been doing this), it doesn't bother me when we get beat. Usually we deserved to get beat. And if it's one of our friends who beat us, that is awesome, because I know how hard they worked to do it.
Especially in your situation where you're competing with a dog you barely know, how can you worry about winning or losing? It's not remotely an equal situation. Just take it as a measure of where you are in training today and go from there.
|10-22-2013 11:56 AM|
|10-22-2013 11:27 AM|
I guess I see it a little different. Yes you're competing against a score card, but every trial/judge is different. So you can't say I scored a 89 last time and a 92 this time so I improved. Every judge looks for something different or weather effects so the scores are subjective to. So all you can really compare to is other competitors.
It's not going to be a problem between us. We are not like that, it just feels weird to me so if I can avoid it I would like to. We train with a few couples, and they always seem to be in different classes. It just makes more sense to me. Ultimately, she is going to enter in whatever class she wants and I will be right there cheering her on hoping for the best.
|10-22-2013 11:06 AM|
|Galathiel||I dunno, I suppose it depends on both your attitudes. I just remember something said once about competing with loved ones. 'Remember, when you're competing, that means one of you always loses. Do you really want to make the other party feel like a loser?' So it really does depend on how you approach it. I couldn't do it unless it was more of a 'we're a team and when one of us wins, we both win' kinda thing.|
|10-22-2013 11:01 AM|
|Chris Wild||Tim and I have "competed against" one another in SchH/IPO trials, SDA trials, Rally trials... but I've never considered it really competing against each other. Sure, we'll tease back and forth about who got the better score, but it's all in fun and there's no serious competitive element to it. I'm happy to see anyone I know do well. The closer my ties to that person, the more happy I am if they succeed and the more bummed I am if they have a bad day. He feels the same. It's never been an issue for us. I feel the same as Catu. The only thing we're competing against is the available points and our own previous performances, nothing and no one else.|
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