|10-21-2013 11:36 PM|
All GSDs should have a double coat because that gives them a hardiness against the environment. The under-coat is made of soft fine hair which usually sheds on a seasonal basis. It comes out in tufts most noticeable on the thighs and shoulders.
With a plush coat, the hair of the outer-coat is also fairly fine and may be seen to fluff up slightly. This can look "glamorous" but requires regular grooming because the hair can shed all year round. A thorough daily brush with a good rake keeps it looking good with no need to ever wash the dog.
Some dogs are less "glamorous" with a coarser hair on the outer-coat which tends to lie fairly flat on the body. This requires a just a quick comb every few days to clear out the under-coat.
|10-21-2013 10:29 PM|
You have two small children and haven't had a GSD of your own, right?
All that's ok, I raised my kids with GSDs, but way back when, I got lucky.
Having had one or two of these fantastic dogs in my home for many, many years, I'd give you the following advice... advice is free.
Look for a reputable breeder, check references, talk to people who have pups from previous litters.
This is a breed with a myriad of health issues and can be very expensive.
Health and temperament ( hence titles) are paramount.
Ask and verify before you buy.
Puppy fever can lead to hasty choices ( been there, done that).
Don't know where you are located, but you might ask the forum for breeders you can talk to, and visit, in your area.
|10-21-2013 09:48 PM|
Oh I just found the mother and her pedigree is incorrect on the database
Here is a link to the female you posted as the dam http://www.zumaltenhofkennels.com/bruna.htm
If this is not the owner of the female who is breeding her maybe contact this person as ask why they sold her ??
|10-21-2013 09:44 PM|
The sire is a mix of West/Belgium lines and Czech working lines.
As far as the mother goes i guess if the pedigree was right she would be a older dog now that what she looks like in the picture. Also as said above i would say that there is a lot to question as far as the dogs health and pedigree goes. I would not buy unless you can see this to all be in order for your own eyes. If the price from limited to full is that large then maybe there are other things that are a miss. I think it best you ask for proof of hips/ elbows and DM test before you go forward. With out knowing your budget and what they are asking for puppies sometimes what you have to spend is not far from what a reputable breeder is asking for their puppies a with a little more time you could find a breeder who would have all this in order for you as well as titled parents with good hips and elbow scores.
Maybe also do a search for the breeders name and see what comes up about them.
if their is a website maybe that would help.
|10-21-2013 01:46 PM|
I would question the validity of the mother's pedigree. Cap Arkona kennel has never produced a female of that name and their last B litter was born in 2012. They may have the name incorrect, but then the pedigree would still be incorrect for both B litter breedings they have done. Cap Akona did use Timmy a couple of times. The kennel name could have been used by a breeder in the states. Unfortunately that happens. There is no record of the mother having hips/elbows certified by OFA.
The sire has no hip/elbow rating with OFA or the SV, but could have an FCI rating.
Of course this is all based on what is presented on the PDB which is only as correct as the person inputting the information.
|10-21-2013 12:31 PM|
|10-21-2013 12:22 PM|
|loveruby25||Well, she did explain that I could always get full registration down the road if I want. I was a little taken back though that the price difference between full and limited is quite large.|
|10-21-2013 12:13 PM|
A quick scan of the pedigree, the mother's lines look better as at least the parents are titled. Doesn't look like the sire's pedigree has titles in it until you get to his grandparents. Which means that the sire's parents weren't bred with much thought and were probably bred because of the fact that there are some successful dogs behind them. I'm not sure if the sire is what they say he is...his name is very American and not following the German system of naming dogs.
Neither parent is titled or health certified, for you, the health certification should be more important as it will give you more of a chance for a healthy dog. It does look like they're just throwing random dogs together without much thought of what they're producing. Pretty dog + pretty dog = pretty puppies. On top of that, the fact that they'll just let you purchase the full registration only based on the fact that you "might want to breed" isn't right. Most breeders will sell limited registration, and then they'll "grant" you full registration after you have proven the dog is breedworthy...so you've done the health checks and hopefully titled the dog in something.
For the breeder to want more money just because they realize that you'll have the opportunity to later make some money off of the dog isn't right. The truth is...it doesn't make any more work for the breeder or the AKC. It's just a way to protect lines and protect the breed if the breeder cares to do so.
|10-21-2013 12:10 PM|
|mycobraracr||Lack of heath checks and titles for a couple generations. To me that says someone is trying to ride coat tales of the breeders who actually put the work into their dogs. So it's just not a litter I would look at. Others may disagree. Again this is just based off the information on PDB so I could be wrong.|
|10-21-2013 12:08 PM|
|GatorDog||I don't see hip or elbow xrays posted for either dog and there's no titles (either show or working) for either dog. Both red flags for me if I were purchasing a puppy. Obviously its the internet, so it could be just lack of real info, but I would definitely verify for sure that xrays were done.|
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