|11-23-2013 10:33 AM|
Some dogs are just territoral, that is why people like or want a gsd as a guard dog because of this trait. IF someone wants a happy go lucky loving dog that will allow everyone into their yard get another breed. We are not talking fear we are just talking natural territorial dominance which i think is an important part of this breed. Its what makes you feel safe at night when your dog is watching over everything. A good gsd is not going to let any stranger into the yard they consider theirs.
If someone wants a quiet breed they should look into greyhounds my friends greyhound is very quiet and mellow.
|11-11-2013 06:49 AM|
|11-11-2013 06:46 AM|
If I accidentally kick or step on my working dog, she will give out a "hey, watch it" yelp. If someone else steps on her or kicks her, they very well may be wearing a GSD. Big difference when it's you.
|11-11-2013 03:02 AM|
|biggo||The best way to prevent a dog from barking excessively, is to make him more comfortable with whatever it is he barks at so frequently. Dogs bark at anything that scares or threatens them, so if you show your dog that the object of their fear is nothing to be afraid of, he'll stop barking.|
|11-09-2013 12:45 AM|
I have a breeder in mind. I have met the possible sires and dams - and all these dogs are family owned and raised. The best pair are both protection dog trained, but still sane enough to enjoy playing a good game of fetch, or being loved on in the house. They understand that not all strangers are bad, and are very calm (though watchful) when someone comes in. Once they see their owners interacting with the new people, they realize it's safe, and are happy to be loved on. But at night, when nobody is supposed to be there, they'll let you know that you're on the wrong side of the fence. My husband's dog is sired by one such dog. Hubby went to check on the house one night (our friends were gone for a few days) and the dog walked up calm as could be, saw hubby was on the wrong side of the fence, and growled and slowly advanced until he was on the "right" side of the fence. Once hubby was there, the dog returned to his "post."
I know my breeder will help me get the right pup for what I want. I have told her exactly what I'm looking for.
I'm a little sad that hubby's boy (now a 4 year old GSD) is a giant pansy. Bullet and I will play in the yard and he will lunge now and then, but will never try to bite. I'll grab at him (much like you see in the video posted here, though not quite as rough, I think?) and he'll immediately whimper and look at me all disgusted that I could possibly be so mean to him. Hubby can get him to bite on me when (hubby) and I are playing, but Bullet knows the difference between mama and a true "bad guy." He has never bitten to hurt me. I wonder if he would truly protect his daddy from someone we don't know, but I hope I don't have to find out.
|11-05-2013 06:42 PM|
Yeah that is what i call fight drive but what anibus is talking about is it takes a natural civil with good heart dog that has the ability to get that fight drive to be capable of being trained that far, most just shut down when going to that level. Again GSD's seem to shut down much less often than other breeds from what i have seen (NOT INCLUDING MALS)
many many dogs will bite, but we are talking an all out fight, fighting a dog that is going to be using its jaws to the best of its ability, gsds have a lot of power in their jaws like 500 psi??? and that gsd will learn high pain tollerance because once in that mode they really are in it to win. A very scary animal to deal with (if you attack its owner). You start off with the right dog then train to that level.
A naturally civil dog with no training just a good upbrining and strong bond will nail someone in some bad situations. I doubht they will fight the person all out. But they will probably give them a bite or 2. That will be enough cause those bites hurt bad.
|11-05-2013 02:46 PM|
Also the real ppds dont even have to be aggressive dogs sometimes they are not. If they are not tied up I noticed they wont bark they are just silent and will run and nail a person without making a sound. THe only time I hear noise is when they are held back from attacking. Some of these dogs are great in public and calm in temper. They just have what it takes to get very serious when they have to be. They are not afraid of using their jaws to their fullest power on just about anything humans, dogs etc.. Blood or flesh biting does not seem to bother them. You can really see how reluctant a lot of dogs are to bite. ANd then some just dont give 2 ****s they will bite anywhere and anything when they have to, even if they are not mean or aggressive dogs, they do anything to win.
Anyone else notice this?
On another note well bred untrained dogs can scare the living crap out of most people and some still bite. Who is going to keep comming when the dog is barking insane at the end of leash? they would do it if they were going to shoot it, or be insane, or on drugs. Or be suicidal. Its not just the dog they have to deal with, they are dealing with YOU fighting for YOUR life. You are just as dangerous as your dog when you are fighting for your life. Well you should be.
|11-05-2013 02:34 PM|
yes true ppd are born but they are not "rare" as people make them out to be, people just dont ask for them or look in the right places
THey have it in them to bite for real from the start the training adds to it and creates a good fight drive and brings out that instinct. Kinda like a person who has good heart for fighting but then you train that person they become much much more confidnant. Without the training they are not going to win they dont know what to do agaisnt another species and if that species pushes even the ones that are born with it may take a few bites and then back down. Again some wont some may stay in the fight even if not trained. Most will at least bite or something if they have the proper genes to begin with and have not been trained.
There are plenty of sch dogs out there that will, the good ones at least. You may not see them at your local club but they are for sure out there. YOu have to be very selective in picking and your breeder. It is not that hard to find a dog like this in german shepherd. If you wanted a dog like this in dobies or another breed like a rottie then yes it is going to be tough. But gsd there are a lot out there still. Lots of breeders can still produce this dog and the dog will still be stable.
David once the bite suit falls off the dog should never look at the suit again the dog should and want to keep focussing on the man. THe dogs that go right back after the suit are not really the ones i consider ppd's. THe ones who ignore the fallen suit and just want to kill the naked decoy in no shirt and unnderwear are the ones i consider real. JMHO For a PPD i do not want a dog showing any interest in equipment. BUt i want these traits from the start. Like some dogs seem to naturally just focus on the man while others focus on the euip. Again JMHO When he strips and the dog is just as eager to bite him or even more eager those are the ones I will take as a PPD.
ALso the dogs you cannot get close to. Some decoys are able to touch a dogs nose in ppd? The dog should be able to grab the fingers or try really hard to get a hold of him, so at least most decoys will not get that close. The dogs that are letting their faces and nose be touched do not seem very real either. The dog id expect to be lunging at the man like a gator there is no way fingers are going to get close to the dog. Some dogs seem to give a live bite to make a point before they are shown some real respect then the decoys seem to be very cautious on how they are being handled after that lol
|10-29-2013 05:46 PM|
|burdock87||I would like to know my dog would do what he can to protect me, but I'd rather he not have to, as you said, crackem. I guess I need to do more research on Schutzhund. I simply want a dog that could help me out if things got real bad (until I could get to my pistol); or deter the "bad guy" from even starting anything.|
|10-24-2013 02:48 PM|
Who was this guy in WI? I'd be curious to know. OTher than that, IPO is a sport, yes it's for points. You get what you train for, you can use what your dog has. I train for sport, because if **** hits the fan, I'm protecting my dogs, not the other way around. I have way too much time, energy and love into them to send them out when my bullets will get their faster. About all they really need to do is bark. Now would they do more? I have a feeling they would, but I really don't care to find out.
Now for "sport" training, we do stuff in trees, in buildings, in woods, brush and sterile ipo fields, they get lots thrown at them beyond "sport" stuff, but if all you want is simple sterile sport, go for it, if not, do more. because your dog runs around a blind and barks at a guy with a sleeve doesn't mean you can't do muzzle work, or hidden sleeve or throw jugs of rocks around and have him confront a "bad guy" in a bathroom. You can tell a lot from doing "just sport" and you can also train for a lot more than just the exercises. I think people that don't are just too bad of trainers or too lazy to put in the work
and just because a dog bites a suit and not a sleeve, it doesn't make it "real" Because a trainer can tie a dog out and shove a hidden sleeve in its mouth, it's not real either. Beyond that, dogs have it or they don't. There are a lot of dogs that just do "sport" that will lay down their life for you too.
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