|10-31-2013 02:11 PM|
|paulag1955||Chris, thanks. We are in the process of healing Thor's gut and transitioning to raw is the last step. We are almost there.|
|10-31-2013 02:10 PM|
|Chris Wild||MM=Muscle meat, regular meat without bone. So yes, boneless chicken breast, pork loin, hamburger, roast. Heart is also MM, though often mistaken for OM.|
|10-31-2013 02:08 PM|
|paulag1955||Chris Wild, so MM would be, for example, boneless chicken breasts or pork loin?|
|10-31-2013 12:41 PM|
|Castlemaid||My thought about the stools is that the hardness of the stool is cleaning out residual mucus that built up when he was having soft poops. I'd just watch it for a couple of days and see if that clears up.|
|10-31-2013 12:16 PM|
Great , thanks . My goal is to get him on all grinds with a daily wing thrown in for bone crunching fun .
I have a turkey/chicken/lamb grind , pure turkey grind , and a whole salmon grind. And some green tripe. All in 2 pound tubes. Real happy with the company .. 295.00 was the cost for more than a 30 days supply for 3 dogs , 130 pounds , 95 pounds , and 70 pound pup. Same price as high end kibble.
Question - his stools are formed now but are always wrapped in a covering of clear/yellowish mucus. No blood . What does that indicate?
|10-30-2013 10:15 AM|
|10-29-2013 11:56 PM|
To those following this thread , thanks so much for your help. I just got an big order of frozen supposedly complete chubs ...and things have evened out in rocket poops and life in general (as they often do) .
However , my 8 month GSD is probably still not balanced . I give him chicken wings , small amounts of calf liver , some canned mackeral , eggs and shells , and pumpkin. What is glaringly missing? I am going to start intro'ing smears then smudges than lumps of the complete grinds...good plan?
|10-16-2013 12:50 PM|
I was feeding him RAAW Energy whole chicken grind. Claims to have the entire chicken ground up as is. That was constipating him..maybe if I add a tiny bit of OM to that ? And a fish oil capsule?
I was doing 20% just because in research I found that ratio..also saw 80-10-10 ..but if I stick with grinds I should only have to worry about total fed per day since the ratio is there already , right?
If I go with the grind..what can I do for teeth that does not involve him chewing bone and dropping it on the floor ? Once my 2 year old is not crawling and upright most of the time I won't care.
Even when I give him bones in a secluded are he steps all in it ..maybe I can feed him bones out on the front lawn..he makes quick work of them so it is not a time consuming thing to supervise his bone eating. It is just hard to let him eat it without getting it on his fur or paws while inside.
Sorry for thinking out loud lol ..just trying to figure out how to keep doing this. His fur and teeth look awesome ..my boxer mix lost his extra 10 pounds in 3 weeks and looks like an Olympian..my 8 to 10 year old Mastiff is also looking much better as a result.
So my goal is to keep this up!
|10-15-2013 02:49 PM|
Loose stools can be due to over feeding and can also be due to too much OM. 20% organ is a lot and more than most diets have. If you're going with 20% I would make that the eventual goal and start lower, at about 5-10%, and increase it gradually over time.
Another thing to keep in mind is that with raw the key is balance *over time*. You don't need every single meal, or even every day or every couple of days, to come out in a perfect ratio. There are some things that need to be done ratio wise, such as not overloading the bone or OM in a short period of time of course, but you don't need to stress over perfect balance and ratios every day.
Heart and gizzard are MM. Other organs, such as liver, spleen, kidney, etc.. are OM. Whole poultry with the little organ pouch tucked inside the cavity doesn't usually include all of the organs. So feeding a whole ground chicken, while a balanced meal in terms of MM to RMB, may be short on OM. If beef isn't an option, you can buy chicken livers for cheap at any grocery store. Many of the pre-made grinds offered by raw suppliers also include the organs, so if you're feeding some pre-made you may not need to add any more organ.
As for fish, check into canned mackerel. You'll generally get more bang for your buck than sardines, and it can be found just packed in plain water, not salt, oil or any of the weirdo sauces that sardines often come in. You can also add fish oil capsules to the daily diet, and in doing so get the primary benefit of fish (Omega 3s) without having to worry about tracking down a safe, affordable source of fish to feed.
|10-15-2013 02:26 PM|
The other 2 dogs could eat a truck tire for dinner and be fine lol ..it is the 7 month old GSD that is having these issues.
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