|10-16-2013 08:03 PM|
Not sure what the picking up the cats trigger in a dog's mind but my girl does that somewhat too if I pick up the cat. She gets agitated like the cat is going to get away. I have learned to tell her to down before I pick the cat up and made it clear to her that if I carry the cat she cannot jump on me to try and get the cat. When I hold the cat I think she would hurt them, but really just due to whatever state of mind she is in.
She is funny with the cats because she likes them but when they jump up on the table (outside) where they eat, she makes a lunge for them and has to "tag" them, meaning she touches them with her mouth but does not hurt them. They have learned she won't hurt them but it is a lunge.
Years back I had a GSD (female) that would help herd my chickens into the hen house. She was always careful and would pad along behind the chickens. But if I picked up a chicken she would lunge for it. Again, I learned to tell her to down and stay when I had to pick up a chicken. My male dog would try to kill anything that moved so he never got to be around the cat or chickens.
|10-16-2013 12:00 PM|
|10-16-2013 11:52 AM|
I spoke to the trainer last night about our issue. She said when the lady in the dog park picked up her dog it signaled that he was weak and the other dogs were going to take him out. She wasn't sure if it was the same thing with the cats since it's a different species or if it makes their prey drive kick in.
She gave me two possible solutions. 1)work with each dog individually on a leash where their movement can be controlled. Treat for good behavior. 2)kick their a**es at the slightest attempt to go after the cats.
I'm thinking I will start out the nice way. I have learned with Karly though that positive training doesn't always work. One way or another we will get this corrected.
|10-15-2013 09:56 PM|
|OrangeJillius||I don't have the answers you are looking for, but I also have experienced this. My older dog ( 6 year old gsd mix) did this when he was younger, but he did grow out of it or maybe got tired of being told "AH" each time, not sure which. Now my pup does this (6 months old). She will still occasionally chase the cats as well (when the cats do their zoomies), but if I go to pick one up she will race over and try to grab them from me, I also use AH! loudly with her to stop her in her tracks, then I say leave it and praise when she walks away (or gallops away in another direction to grab a toy ). My last foster dog ALSO did this, he was much harder to deal with since he had been living on the streets for the first 5 months of his life with no corrections, honestly before he was adopted I never did get it fixed, but his adopter did not have cats or want cats. I would guess it is something related to prey drive. I actually have a cat who does this same behavior to some extent. Yes, a cat. He is a very prey driven kitty and we had a mouse in our house recently and I did not want any of the pets to eat it so I grabbed it and he tried to snatch it out of my hand before I got it into a bucket. He will also react that way if I pick up a dead spider or cricket or other dead bug (that he has killed) from the floor. He will also chase our puppy if she runs near him (if he is awake). He is pretty fierce|
|10-15-2013 09:05 PM|
|10-15-2013 07:50 PM|
In my case I know it's Briggs who is instigating. His drives are all around higher and he was the first to go after the cats when they were picked up. Now it is an automatic response. They both come at you even if they are separated. Not sure what I should do. Oddly this is the only time they go at the cats like this.
|10-15-2013 07:46 PM|
I knew I couldn't be the only one! Hopefully somebody will know what the deal is with this. Honestly it makes me want to clobber the pups. I just want to understand what makes this happen.
|10-15-2013 07:44 PM|
It is a really hard one to explain.
For some reason the pups prey drive is excited when the cats are picked up.
Maybe the pups think the person picking up the cat is actually attacking it and they want a piece of the action
You want to separate the 2 pups and see which one has the strongest desire to attack the cats. One is probably triggering the other.
Then you need to teach that dog/pup not to attack the cat in this way.
I would hold the cat and let the pups know they'll get corrected for attacking it.
|10-15-2013 07:41 PM|
|Quinnsmom||I'll be watching and looking for explanations here as well since my dog does this too. I wondered if the tail and legs sort of hanging down suggested helpless prey to him.|
|10-15-2013 07:38 PM|
|arby665||I really think there is more to it as I saw the same thing happen at the dog park. Poor lady about had a dead dog. Lucky for her she was close enough to the fence to hand her dog over it.|
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