|10-04-2013 06:51 PM|
I agree with having her tested for EPI...I hope she doesn't have it but at least you need to rule it out.
I can't find much information on those enzymes she is getting now. But if she has EPI she needs "enzyme replacement therapy" they are much stronger than regular enzymes.
I hope you can get a diagnosis and get her treated for whatever is making her so sick
|10-04-2013 06:14 PM|
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|10-04-2013 04:49 PM|
I am going to jump in here. My girl, Gretta started looking thin in June. I screwed around with the food, and gave it time to work, and since I had two doing the same thing, I got the one a blood test -- Dolly. Dolly's bloodwork was fine, I added some pro-biotics, and Dolly improved.
Gretta got worse. I started seeing her pelvis bone as well as ribs, and her coat was awful. It is sometimes hard to see small day to day changes, but I needed help with her, so I made an appointment for her, and got her in. I freaked out when the scale said 42 pounds. Two days later, after fasting for 12 hours, it said 52 pounds, so I think we just got a bad reading. Still, she was way under-weight.
They do a full blood panel and send it away for a couple of days -- drives you nuts. They check for vitamin B, SIBO, and other stuff at the same time. The good news for Gretta was that her Vitamin B looks good, and she had no SIBO, but does have EPI. My vet sent me to Enzyme Diane, and I drove out there, left a check and she had the enzymes in a cooler for me.
No goodies or extras -- everything has to be treated with the enzymes. We have gained 10 pounds since the end of July. We were gaining 2 pounds a week, but that leveled out some. She can use a few more, but she looks a lot better, and I am down to brushing only once a week for her.
SIBO is very common with EPI, and the vet said that we will need to re-test the blood if she starts losing condition, as they often have a vitamin deficiency that can be managed.
Good luck with your girl.
|10-04-2013 02:11 PM|
|missmychance||I would definitely ask your vet for the TLI test. It is a special test that looks for EPI that has to be sent by your vet to Texas A&M for analysis. My shepherd was diagnosed with EPI 2 years ago and our vet charged around $180 for it. Mine was the same way just suddenly started losing weight even though we were feeding him about 8 cups of food/day. An enzyme based food will not help if its EPI. You would need porcine (pig) based enzymes. As suggested contact enzymediane.com. She is very informative and helpful. Getting some enzymes right away cant hurt. Good luck.|
|10-04-2013 12:05 PM|
Yes. I would change her digestive enzyme
I haven't used the Diane personally but have heard good things about it,
I used a professional human product with a large amount of Pancreatin in it from Pureformulas,com called Pancreatin 8x Plus.
IMHO, i think one of the above would be better than what u r using
|10-04-2013 08:06 AM|
I can't find the ingredients/amounts in the enzyme that you are using - go to Enzyme Diane's website and compare a 6x of her formula to what you are giving. Or post those things here/on the EPI forum.
I would be asking about those liver enzymes too and might be thinking of a second opinion pretty quickly. So weird such rapid weight loss.
|10-04-2013 12:57 AM|
Agree with JeanK: Overview - EPI * Exocrine Pancreatic Insufficiency check that site out. You will need to get a 12 hour fasting blood pull for Texas A/M. She could have SIBO/ARD, EPI or something else.
Sounds just like my first GSD! This is very scary! I'm sorry this is happening to your baby! Our 2 year old dog was so bad, that the vets in the clinic I was using gave up on her so I abandoned western medicine and went with holistic techniques. We used homeopathic's (which I had been cured with years before), several different supplements, acupuncture and chiropractic's and raw food. She lived until she was 12 years old!
Would you consider seeing a holistic vet? I can give you a list of "registered" AHVMA holistic vets in your state. Some vet clinic's claim to be "holistic" because they simply employ an acupuncturist. But a TRUE holistic vet would be able to provide "natural" modialities such as Homeopathy, Chinese Herbs, Homeotoxicology, Glandular Therapy, Western Herbals, Nutrition, etc.
I think it is very important that your dog gets the test first and you get a definite diagnosis as soon as you can to be able to deal with this correctly.
|10-03-2013 11:47 PM|
|Nigel||I think momto2gsds needs to see this thread, she may have more ideas. There are others as well, but some people are only on a few days a week.|
|10-03-2013 12:55 PM|
If it is EPI or SIBO, wouldn't the tylosin or all the enzymes make even a small difference? She just seems to be getting worse.
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|10-03-2013 10:24 AM|
|doggiedad||try another Vet. 2nd and 3rd opinons can be helpful.|
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